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Old January 12th, 2009, 10:55 PM   #1
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I had a good scare today in my 90 Bronco2. Motor has over 150k on it but it runs like a champ,always dead quiet. Today while driving up I75 I had the radio up pretty loud and during the quiet between songs I heard a nasty ticking.I was doing about 75mph at 3200rpm. I let off the gas and started to pull off the highway and it started to go away. Before I could get off to the shoulder of the road it went away completely. I stayed in the slow lane doing about 60 mph {2800 rpm} for the next mile or two and everything was fine. I decided to speed up again and as soon as I hit 3000 rpm I could hear the ticking starting to come back,by time I got up to 75mph {3200rpm} it was back in full force.

My oil level was dead center on the cross hatch on the stick. Oil is 10/40 Penzoil that aint even got 500 miles on it. When I replaced the valve cover gaskets a while back the motor was spotless inside,no sludge at all.

On my return trip home I kept the truck under 3000 rpm and it never made a sound.

Sounds like a starvaton issue to me but I dont understand why. Anyone else run into this on a 2.9?
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Old January 12th, 2009, 11:00 PM   #2
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high mileage 2.9's do this all the time. Mine does it all the time on the highway and at startup. I use 10w30 and a quart of Lucas, it helps alot. You cant kill a 2.9 until you run it out of oil..trust me.
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Old January 12th, 2009, 11:01 PM   #3
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all 2.9 tick it's called a lifter tick some you can adjust and other you can't
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Old January 12th, 2009, 11:02 PM   #4
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high mileage 2.9's do this all the time. Mine does it all the time on the highway and at startup. I use 10w30 and a quart of Lucas, it helps alot. You cant kill a 2.9 until you run it out of oil..trust me.
lol that's a lie we ran one for an hour with no oil every time taking off in first gear we would shift at 7 grand and it wouldn't die
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Old January 12th, 2009, 11:08 PM   #5
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lol that's a lie we ran one for an hour with no oil every time taking off in first gear we would shift at 7 grand and it wouldn't die
thats badass!! We ran a 2.9 with no fuelpump and no gas tank it kept goin strong for the 5-10 mins we ran it, Offroad86b2 is the guys name on here, Brad.
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they are hard to kill we only killed one we kept the pedal to the floor in first gear and then we heard this huge pop and then the motor would run anymore
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Like mudder said put some lucas in it and it will help it a lot
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Old January 12th, 2009, 11:15 PM   #8
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Change the oil asap. Keep that thing running as good as u can. 2.9's are torque monsters down low and into the mid range and yet get good MPG.
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The oil is fresh.Its has three oil changes in the past 1500 miles!

I understand these motors tick a little but why would mine seem to be rpm sensitive?
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Old January 12th, 2009, 11:34 PM   #10
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lifters? possibly?
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the tick comes and goes like sometimes i will start mine up and will have no tick and then it will start to tick then it will go away it's the lifters and you can only adjust 84-88 ones the 89 and 90 one's are not adjustable
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The oil is fresh.Its has three oil changes in the past 1500 miles!

I understand these motors tick a little but why would mine seem to be rpm sensitive?
same with mine, once i get it up passed 2,500 and hold it for awhile on the highway the tick will come and it will go away after a while. I haven't tried adjusting mine yet..
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Old January 13th, 2009, 01:27 AM   #13
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i ran into the same problem on my 88 ranger i had a while ago. i tore the motor all down trying to figure out what it was and when i got to the bottom end i finally figured out what the cause was. even though the top of the motor looks clean chances are your oil pump screen is partially plugged and starving your motor for oil at around the 3000 rpm range. if you want to keep that motor running as good and long a possible i would clean the screen or change the pump and screen. i had that same problem on three of the four motors i blew up in it so i would try that before you end up having to by another motor for the sake of a 50 dollar oil pump.
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i ran into the same problem on my 88 ranger i had a while ago. i tore the motor all down trying to figure out what it was and when i got to the bottom end i finally figured out what the cause was. even though the top of the motor looks clean chances are your oil pump screen is partially plugged and starving your motor for oil at around the 3000 rpm range. if you want to keep that motor running as good and long a possible i would clean the screen or change the pump and screen. i had that same problem on three of the four motors i blew up in it so i would try that before you end up having to by another motor for the sake of a 50 dollar oil pump.
Thats kinda what I was thinkin. I have been trying to avoid pulling the motor on this truck but I guess not its time. My bellhousing bolt holes for the starter are stripped,oil pan is coated in JB weld cuz its rusted so bad.....now this.


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Old January 13th, 2009, 09:57 AM   #15
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x2 on the oil pump pickup..or worn out pump..

Gotta love the JB weld for the ford pans...
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You can just buy my 2.9 in the parts section to get a better oil pan
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I will be doing a 4.0 swap come spring anyway.
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Well my JB Weld oil pan fix gave up yesterday so with one quart of oil on my shop floor I have no choice now but to pull the motor this weekend to change the pan and pump. Hopefully I will find the screen plugged too so I know I have found my other problem.
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you shouldnt have to completly remove the engine, ive always undid the motor mounts and lifted the engine up as high as i can go to get enough clearance under neath. Also 1 piece Felpro pan gaskets make it really easy to do if you leave the engine in there.
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What about the exhaust,trans and other lines?
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