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Old September 14th, 2008, 10:05 PM   #1
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Default Geo Tracker? is this where i ask?

not really sure if this is the correct section for this question, but here is my story....


not too long ago my sister bought herself a 91 geo tracker for a DD. she has been driving it for about 2 months now and no major issues with it, till recently. on two occasions she would come get me to start it for her cause she coudlnt get it. i didnt see it no issue because i would just get in it, pump it and play with the pedal and eventually after about 10 minutes of messing with ti, i would get it to start. i just assumed that somehow she flooded it unknowingly and it wasnt an issue. the last time it happened she told me that when she drives it, sometimes it cuts out and acts funny but only on damn or rainy days. i talked to my friend about it and he told me that more than likely it was the distributor cap. i coudlnt believe that i overlooked that but it seemed to have made sence. she called me this morning and said she was stuck at a friends house and coudlnt get it started, just like the other two times. i drove to lapeer to go to try and start it for her today and i worked on it for 4 hours and didnt get it started. aparently whatever it is finally went. i called my uncle cause he lives right down the road and we started searching. thinking it was just the cap, i went to auto zone and bought a cap and plugs, just to be safe. after i changed them out i was sure it would start but still nothing. checked and i have spark all the way to the plug. i took the breather off the throttle body and i have gas going in the throttle body. im lost, and have no idea what im going to do about it. maybe im missing something guys, if you could help me out that would be great, thanks in advance.
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Old September 14th, 2008, 10:17 PM   #2
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There is a suzuki Section, it would be a more appropriate place, but nobody goes there


Have you checked the coil? does it have spark? Also find the main relay and make sure its working (its mounted on the Computer)


I'd also check grounds, they can be kind of picky when it comes to grounds, there are quite a few scattered about.
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Old September 16th, 2008, 04:08 PM   #3
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Actual i do think this is the right spot, how it is a GM product, and now the Trackers are only made by Chevy....I had a similar problem with my blazer last year....I had to replace the distributor cap, wires, sorry cant think of the name off the top of my head...that little computer chip thing under the cap, and a fuel pump to get it running....and yes it was 2 problems in 1...somehow they both were going bad at the same time.
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Old September 16th, 2008, 04:20 PM   #4
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Ecm is a very common problem on these and there not a chevy.
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Old September 16th, 2008, 06:05 PM   #5
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Ecm is a very common problem on these and there not a chevy.
But they basically they are a Chevy...they were always owned by GM and Now trackers are only made by Chevy...so why would it not go in this section..but yes the Ecm is what i was talking about
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But they basically they are a Chevy...they were always owned by GM and Now trackers are only made by Chevy...so why would it not go in this section..but yes the Ecm is what i was talking about

The airbox says suzuki on it.....
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Old September 17th, 2008, 06:34 AM   #7
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all trackers are made by suzuki.
is the starter selonoid clicking? or is it just dead?

if it's clicking but not cranking it's the starter & they typically just need to be cleaned and put back.

if it's just dead then pull the ecm and look for any corrosion around the capacitors. Surly over on zuwharrie rebuilds ecms.
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all trackers are made by suzuki.
is the starter selonoid clicking? or is it just dead?

if it's clicking but not cranking it's the starter & they typically just need to be cleaned and put back.

if it's just dead then pull the ecm and look for any corrosion around the capacitors. Surly over on zuwharrie rebuilds ecms.

i guess i should have stated this but it turns over, with no issues even. its definatly not the starter. like i stated in my post, before i would go out there, and crank it for like 10 minutes and eventually it would start. its now backfiring back through the breather which almost makes me think the timing is off, which in turn is making me think that the computer is glitching out. sound legit?
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i guess i should have stated this but it turns over, with no issues even. its definatly not the starter. like i stated in my post, before i would go out there, and crank it for like 10 minutes and eventually it would start. its now backfiring back through the breather which almost makes me think the timing is off, which in turn is making me think that the computer is glitching out. sound legit?
Wouldn't hurt to check the timing, you know make sure you didn't jump any teeth, etc.
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Old September 17th, 2008, 10:54 PM   #10
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if it is the computer you will get spark and fuel pressure but no fuel out of the injecter, it is a very common problem and you can fix your computer but it is much easier to just get another from a junk yard, if you want to fix it yourself try izook.com someone there should know how to do it
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ive had three trackers/sidekicks in the past couple years 2 of them had a similar issue to this, over on the right side above the fenderwell there is a distribution block with a handfull of fuses in it about 14 inches from the radiator support,the wires leading into said fuse block often times corrode causing an intermittent no start, and even sputtering or breaking up, in most cases (or at least mine) the vehicle eventually wont start at all. the inner fenders rust out and water, dirt and road gunk get thrown off the tire into the wires and cause them to corrode, if it were me i'd look there before tracking down a new ecm or fiddling with timing and such

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Old September 19th, 2008, 09:32 PM   #12
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another vote for jumped timing belt. they are overlooked for years, and will lose a tooth or two, then slip when you least expect it. you can pull the cover bolts off, and peer into the abyss to check if you are missing teef, they are pretty big. at least you can easily rule the timing is/isn't the problem.
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Old September 23rd, 2008, 07:28 PM   #13
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I have had 6 trackers of various years. If it is not the timing belt my guess is the ecm. You can get an ecm off of ebay through a company that rebuilds them. Only like 75 bucks. They just require you to send your old one back to them after you have received theirs. I think they have a money back guaruntee. Junk yard ecm is a bad idea, seems they are very vehicle specific and hard to find a match.
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I sprayed starting fluid in the intake and it fired. I sent the ECM away to be rebuilt. Trackers and Sidekicks are know for having bad capacitors in the earlier years so if you buy a used one you still will have the bad cap's. When they rebuild yours they install better, longer lasting parts. Mine starts and runs fine now
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I sprayed starting fluid in the intake and it fired. I sent the ECM away to be rebuilt. Trackers and Sidekicks are know for having bad capacitors in the earlier years so if you buy a used one you still will have the bad cap's. When they rebuild yours they install better, longer lasting parts. Mine starts and runs fine now
i have to the same thing to mine and after i get it running it misses til u get it up to a higher rpm, so u think it is the ecm
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