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Old December 25th, 2008, 10:24 AM   #1
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Powershot G9 vs D40

I'm going between the Canon Powershot G9 and the Nikon D40. My main concerns are getting good shots in low light and not having a lot of shutter lag. The online prices are very comparable, so that's not an issue. Any input would be apreciated.
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Old December 25th, 2008, 10:53 AM   #2
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I just went thru all of this. I was set on the D40 and also looking at going big with the D90. I went to a very reputable camera shop in GR that sells the Canon, Nikon, and Olympus cameras. Needless to say, after being stuck on the nikon cameras I ended up with an Olympus E-520 Camera complete with 2 lenses, 2 Hoya lens protectors, 2 Batteries, and XD card, camera case, olympus equipment bag, and 2 olympus mini coolers ( promotional items that didn't affect my decision ). I paid a little over 700 for the package. It's been taking some great pictures that I will be posting shortly.
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Old December 25th, 2008, 11:02 AM   #3
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SLR >>>>> Powershot G9
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Old December 25th, 2008, 11:04 AM   #4
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SLR >>>>> Powershot G9
Does this mean that the SLR is much larger or much better?
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Old December 25th, 2008, 11:12 AM   #5
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BTW, http://www.steves-digicams.com/best_cameras.html is a great site. Nothing comparing DSLR to advanced digitals though.
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Old December 25th, 2008, 11:23 AM   #6
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I bought the wife a G9 and she loves it, it takes pretty good point and shoot pics but is much better when you take the time to mess with some custom settings. The low light shots with it aren't that great though.
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Old December 25th, 2008, 11:41 AM   #7
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I think I'm going with the e-510 as advised by bowextreme and steve's digipix. I'll post shots as soon as I get some. I found the camera with the standard lens and battery online for $410. I'm also tempted to get one of these to play with...http://www.amazon.com/Opteka-420-160...pr_product_top
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Old December 25th, 2008, 02:38 PM   #8
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With an SLR your only limits are lenses. A faster (smaller) f number lens will allow for better low light pics. With a P&S camera, it is what it is. If it doesn't take nice pics in low light, tough. As far as that link you posted, i would stay away. That looks like total garbage, and a waste of money.
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Old December 25th, 2008, 03:10 PM   #9
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Get the SLR, in the long run you'll be much happier. A 6MP SLR will still be bounds ahead in image quality than a P&S 12mp.
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Old December 25th, 2008, 05:11 PM   #10
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The G9/G10 reviews seem pretty good, here's another: http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/g10.htm

The thing that would get me personally is while that is a considered a compact camera it's still not much of a pocket camera so it wouldn't be that much more of a hassle to lug around a dslr camera. A lot of the big expensive point and shoot cameras do seem to take nice pictures, but for me I either want something I can toss in my pocket and not know its there, so something I know I'll get a quality picture with.
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I shoot with a D40. I have the kit lens and a 55-200mm VR zoom. I love my D40, and although I could have purchased 'more', I feel like I got the right package for my needs. These are a few of my first D40 efforts.: http://s391.photobucket.com/albums/o...1st%20Efforts/

I do prefer low light/night shooting, urban, action, and some macro, so I'm also picking up the new Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 Macro lens.

I'm shooting a wedding in February for our daughters friend, so I've picked up a flash bracket (Stroboframe Pro-T), SB-800 flash, Gary Fong Lightsphere, and lots of batteries.

Ken Rockwell's site is a good source for people that aren't gearheads and want to get 'good enough' for a reasonable investment; dpreview.com is also a great site, but more for gearheads.

Have fun!
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Old December 26th, 2008, 01:39 PM   #12
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DSLR all of the way.
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Old December 28th, 2008, 11:14 AM   #13
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I just got the E-520 with the standard lens from The Camera Shop in Traverse City. So far, so good. I have a lot to learn but it's already a lot more versatile than my p&s. It's nice being able to take a shot without 1 second of lag. I'm having fun playing with the apature priority and shutter priority settings right now.

BowExtreme-There is an Olympus class in GR soon if you're interested. I think my wife and I are going to both go.
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Old December 29th, 2008, 09:31 PM   #14
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I will probably be there. They included all that with my camera purchase.
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Old December 30th, 2008, 08:25 PM   #15
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you really are comparing apples to oranges. Slr and a p&s serve diff purposes.
A HIGH END p&s will blow away a slr when it comes to image quality, especially an slr with a zoom.
If you are comparing a slr and p&s with comp image sensors and optics the p&s will produce a better quality image because it will have a more simple lens. Shorter lens with less glass equals a better image every time.

Slrs are nice versatile workhorses but leave alot to be considered quality wise when compared against a broad spectrum of camera types. P&s cameras shouldn't be written off simply because they are simpler and (usually) cheaper than a slr.
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Old December 30th, 2008, 09:20 PM   #16
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you really are comparing apples to oranges. Slr and a p&s serve diff purposes.
A HIGH END p&s will blow away a slr when it comes to image quality, especially an slr with a zoom.
If you are comparing a slr and p&s with comp image sensors and optics the p&s will produce a better quality image because it will have a more simple lens. Shorter lens with less glass equals a better image every time.

Slrs are nice versatile workhorses but leave alot to be considered quality wise when compared against a broad spectrum of camera types. P&s cameras shouldn't be written off simply because they are simpler and (usually) cheaper than a slr.
I assume you're not talking about a "high end" dSLR when comparing a P&S to it. Even my D40 with the 17-50 f/2.8 looks great compared to most P&S cameras ive seen, unless we're talking about a Leica or something like that. Not saying P&S digitals suck by any means, i've got a nice one, but not sure if "blow away" is how i would look at it.
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Old December 31st, 2008, 05:58 AM   #17
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you really are comparing apples to oranges. Slr and a p&s serve diff purposes.
A HIGH END p&s will blow away a slr when it comes to image quality, especially an slr with a zoom.
If you are comparing a slr and p&s with comp image sensors and optics the p&s will produce a better quality image because it will have a more simple lens. Shorter lens with less glass equals a better image every time.

Slrs are nice versatile workhorses but leave alot to be considered quality wise when compared against a broad spectrum of camera types. P&s cameras shouldn't be written off simply because they are simpler and (usually) cheaper than a slr.
So a powershot G9 will give me clearer images than my Olympus E-520?
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you really are comparing apples to oranges. Slr and a p&s serve diff purposes.
A HIGH END p&s will blow away a slr when it comes to image quality, especially an slr with a zoom.
If you are comparing a slr and p&s with comp image sensors and optics the p&s will produce a better quality image because it will have a more simple lens. Shorter lens with less glass equals a better image every time.

Slrs are nice versatile workhorses but leave alot to be considered quality wise when compared against a broad spectrum of camera types. P&s cameras shouldn't be written off simply because they are simpler and (usually) cheaper than a slr.
That's a good theory, and somewhat true, but pro glass is quite complex. IF your theory were universally true then Leica, Zeiss, and Nikon would be making little plastic lenses with one piece of glass, right?
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I just know that My Fujifilm P&S ($220) looks like crap compared to the E-520. Especially in low-light conditions.
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 11:12 AM   #20
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That's a good theory, and somewhat true, but pro glass is quite complex. IF your theory were universally true then Leica, Zeiss, and Nikon would be making little plastic lenses with one piece of glass, right?
If you take it one step further and forget the glass, and expose onto a sheet of say 4x5 paper or film, you will see that a simple pinhole, properly made, is sharper than any lens.
A lens adds versatility, but by lowering quality. Obviously, any lens manufacturer is going to try to add as much versatility to a lens as they can w/ as little compromise to quality as possible. BUT, there's always a trade off.

Reading on this forum, you'd get the idea that a DSLR is the be all/end all camera to get. All Im saying is thats not always the case and a GOOD p&s will many times be the better choice for someone.
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