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Old December 19th, 2008, 12:47 PM   #1
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want to scope my saiga-20 (semi auto 20g) i've talked to steveo a little about this but im looking for all sorts of input before i go buying......

any recomendations of which one?
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Old December 19th, 2008, 12:56 PM   #2
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Get da Leupold eh! http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-s...oducts/scopes/
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have you seen the price of thoose???
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What are you going to be shooting through the Saiga? Scopes are really only good on a slug gun, which the saiga is far from.

I like optics on my rifles but I think shotguns should stay with irons unless it's a slug gun only.

If it IS a slug gun only, buy an 1100 with a rifled barrel. :D
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how is a saiga far from a slug gun....are u nuts......with rifles slugs i can keep it in the 5 ring with the stock iron sights at about 25/30 yards
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I'm not saying it isn't capable, just that there are better options.

Are you ONLY going to be shooting slugs through the gun?

What type of optic are you looking for? Magnified/nonmagnified?
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i got the gun basicly as a gift (he paid $50 for it from a guy at work) and was given to me for free......it will be fireing slugs only.......looking for something magnified with with iluminated reticles......just need to find one that will hold up to a shot gun
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Im looking into some of the BSA sights for my cetme. I have a 32mm BSA red dot on my 870, and am very satisfied with it. I was surprised to learn that BSA also makes high powered red dots too.


This is the one Im ordering for my cetme (H&K G3/ 91 clone) 4-9x40 with black cross hairs and an illuminated center dot




If its the same quality as my 32mm red dot, $60 is a hell of a deal.


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There is no free lunch with optics. Tasco, Bushnell, BSA, etc may seem feature packed for what you get, but they are not as reliable or accurate as other brands will be.

I would look at some of the magnified optics from Aimpoint. They will stand up to the abuse.
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There is no free lunch with optics. Tasco, Bushnell, BSA, etc may seem feature packed for what you get, but they are not as reliable or accurate as other brands will be.

I would look at some of the magnified optics from Aimpoint. They will stand up to the abuse.
i get the feeling he does not want to spend more than the price of the saiga on a optic. a tasco red dot will do what he needs it to do just fine. I know a lot of guys with these red dots on everything from pistols to ar 15's and they work just fine.
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i get the feeling he does not want to spend more than the price of the saiga on a optic. a tasco red dot will do what he needs it to do just fine. I know a lot of guys with these red dots on everything from pistols to ar 15's and they work just fine.
That's funny because every Tasco I've seen used hard has broken or fallen off.

If you want something cheap that may or may not hold zero and even function after a good bit of slugs through the gun, sure, give those systems a try.

If you want something that will last and maintain it's accuracy you will have to pay for it.
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That's funny because every Tasco I've seen used hard has broken or fallen off.

If you want something cheap that may or may not hold zero and even function after a good bit of slugs through the gun, sure, give those systems a try.

If you want something that will last and maintain it's accuracy you will have to pay for it.
that sounds like a mounting issue, not a issue with the optic. I agree with you on spending more for the superior optic, but for THIS application a cheaper red dot will do exactly what he needs it to do.
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It will work great until it breaks. I shoot a lot and see a lot of guns shot. Tasco stuff is cheap for a reason.

Think of nice optics like a GPS system or sub box for a car. Sure it's expensive, but it's something you can move from vehicle to vehicle and maintain its use. If you see yourself shooting for a long time (most people never "stop" shooting), a $300 aimpoint will last you the rest of your life, regardless of what gun it's on.
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I know what your saying about getting what you pay for, and I strongly agree. But I honestly dont have the $500-$800 to spend on a high powered illuminated rectile scope. I have friends with the high end optics, and no, my BSA doesnt compare. But, for what I paid, I still think its a good deal.


Its kind of like buying a $300 cetme.....instead of a real $3000 H&K.


I have had optics fall apart on my before (like lenses falling off their internal mount after firing), but none of those were BSA. Those were generic off brand copies of BSA (oh yeah....HIGH quality, lol). I do have to say though.....BSA lasers are HORRIBLE. I really would stay away from those. The dot would wander a few INCHES off center at 15 yards on my sigma.


Yeah....my sigma was only uglied up by that POS laser for about an hour.


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It will work great until it breaks. I shoot a lot and see a lot of guns shot. Tasco stuff is cheap for a reason.

Think of nice optics like a GPS system or sub box for a car. Sure it's expensive, but it's something you can move from vehicle to vehicle and maintain its use. If you see yourself shooting for a long time (most people never "stop" shooting), a $300 aimpoint will last you the rest of your life, regardless of what gun it's on.
and thats the reason i am going with the EOTech for my newest ar, its a quality optic and it will last a long time. squeak and i discussed this quite thoroughly the other day, and a tasco red dot will do just fine for now. if he ends up not shooting the gun much, he is set. if he ends up shooting the piss out of this gun and finds the optic lacking, then he can step it up to a good optic.
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5 of my friends' guns have leupold sights on them, and I believe 1 is a shotgun.
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Well do you want to buy a good one once, or a shitty one 3 times? I pay for quality.

But, since you got the gun for free, I see why you wouldn't want to drop coin. BUT you could always transfer the nice scope to a better gun down the road. Leupolds last for years and years and years. They have shotgun-specific models, too, just didn't link like I wanted it to.
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and thats the reason i am going with the EOTech for my newest ar, its a quality optic and it will last a long time. squeak and i discussed this quite thoroughly the other day, and a tasco red dot will do just fine for now. if he ends up not shooting the gun much, he is set. if he ends up shooting the piss out of this gun and finds the optic lacking, then he can step it up to a good optic.
*Cough*Buyanaimpointbecauseeotechsbreaktoo*cough*

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Why do you need any sort of magnification with a 20 gauge? You really don't. If you want something better than irons, I would say get a cheap halo sight. You can get cheaper ones for about 40 bucks that will work fine with the shotgun.
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not too big of a aimpoint fan. right not its up between a EOTech and a Trijicon. The ACOG is just awesome, and they have a massive warranty.
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