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Old December 15th, 2008, 04:13 PM   #21
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Unfortunately, you, along with 99.9% of the rest of the world, do not understand the economics, geography, engineering, or operational issues related to so-called green energy. Windmills, while seemingly "free", in many instances actually increase the cost of electricity. Instead of building one power plant to serve the load, you now build a windmill, yet still have to have a back-up power source for those days that the wind isn't blowing, it isn't blowing at a steady speed, or is blowing too hard to allow the windmills to turn. These are causing a multitude of operational issues all over the US right now and will result in higher energy costs, not lower. But, politicians and tree huggers alike are jumping on the bandwagon because 99.9% of the people out there believe they are a good thing.
thanks for assuming i don't understand the problems that go along with windmills. asshole.
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Old December 15th, 2008, 04:33 PM   #22
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Just read a story on windpower that they did in europe, where they have been using it alot longer than we have. Bottom line....it's not working out.
Cost to maintain is too high.
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Old December 15th, 2008, 04:52 PM   #23
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It may not be as trendy to be a line worker but I'd bet you'd find a job. The current line workers are getting older and newer folks are not coming in to fill jobs. There is/will be a shortage, at least that's what I've been hearing around here at the utility I work for.
Then why the last three times Ive applied I have heard nothing back. My neighbor is a linesman, and tells me every time the have open hires. Seems that Im not black mexican or some other import, I dont fit the bill.
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thanks for assuming i don't understand the problems that go along with windmills. asshole.
I didn't assume anything. I could tell by your post that you have no understanding of the bulk electric system and its operation. Nor do you have any understanding of the economics behind it. So, calling me the asshole would be incorrect as well. Prove me otherwise, without googling or looking anything up. Explain why windmills are bad for operating the bulk electric system and how it can and will increase costs for the end consumer. You always spout off on this website like you know something. Prove it.
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Check out the nuclear tech program at Monroe CC. A huge amount of the workforce is near retirement age and you can make bank.
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Old December 15th, 2008, 07:13 PM   #26
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Check out the nuclear tech program at Monroe CC. A huge amount of the workforce is near retirement age and you can make bank.

DE is on a hiring freeze right now. My cousin has been trying to get in for years.
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DE is on a hiring freeze right now. My cousin has been trying to get in for years.
Hiring freezes just mean they aren't hiring entry level bottom feeders. If you are highly qualified and have skills they need, you can still get hired.
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Old December 15th, 2008, 07:41 PM   #28
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I didn't assume anything. I could tell by your post that you have no understanding of the bulk electric system and its operation. Nor do you have any understanding of the economics behind it. So, calling me the asshole would be incorrect as well. Prove me otherwise, without googling or looking anything up. Explain why windmills are bad for operating the bulk electric system and how it can and will increase costs for the end consumer. You always spout off on this website like you know something. Prove it.
i have nothing to prove to you. asshole.
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Hiring freezes just mean they aren't hiring entry level bottom feeders. If you are highly qualified and have skills they need, you can still get hired.
Im not sure on the details, but my cousin applied to DE, DE then gve him a list of tech classes to take at MCCC, and he just completed them. DE told him he would be one of the first in line when the freeze was over sometime next year. He was taking some kind of boiler operator and electricity classes.
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I didn't assume anything. I could tell by your post that you have no understanding of the bulk electric system and its operation. Nor do you have any understanding of the economics behind it. So, calling me the asshole would be incorrect as well. Prove me otherwise, without googling or looking anything up. Explain why windmills are bad for operating the bulk electric system and how it can and will increase costs for the end consumer. You always spout off on this website like you know something. Prove it.

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i have nothing to prove to you. asshole.
Dumbfuck. If you can't back it up, just shut up and stay out of threads that require an IQ higher than 67. You really annoy people that know what they are talking about. You aren't the little guru you try to be on-line. Just because you get proven to be ignorant on a subject you tried to be all over doesn't make me the asshole.
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Old December 16th, 2008, 09:53 AM   #34
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I didn't assume anything. I could tell by your post that you have no understanding of the bulk electric system and its operation. Nor do you have any understanding of the economics behind it. So, calling me the asshole would be incorrect as well. Prove me otherwise, without googling or looking anything up. Explain why windmills are bad for operating the bulk electric system and how it can and will increase costs for the end consumer. You always spout off on this website like you know something. Prove it.
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Unfortunately, you, along with 99.9% of the rest of the world, do not understand the economics, geography, engineering, or operational issues related to so-called green energy. Windmills, while seemingly "free", in many instances actually increase the cost of electricity. Instead of building one power plant to serve the load, you now build a windmill, yet still have to have a back-up power source for those days that the wind isn't blowing, it isn't blowing at a steady speed, or is blowing too hard to allow the windmills to turn. These are causing a multitude of operational issues all over the US right now and will result in higher energy costs, not lower. But, politicians and tree huggers alike are jumping on the bandwagon because 99.9% of the people out there believe they are a good thing.
What you failed to mention, was the recently past RPS bill which specifically calls out which forms of energy ie... solar, wind... are considered "green". And how those forms of energy are worth more per kw than normally generated power. Also the fact that by, I believe it's 2012, all power companies have to utilize at least 10% "green" power. This is openning a new market for a multitude of technologies, and gives plenty of incentive for companies to invest in wind. And, I could be wrong, but I think these guys are looking for good paying and dependable jobs, not signing up to save the rest of us money.

You said yourself, poiticians and tree huggars are jumping on the bandwagon, so do you really think wind power is going to go away anytime soon with so much focus on it?

Also, wind power will never be a primary power generator, just as you said, it's too inconsistant. But it is a great filler, and will allow power companies to turn down current technology when supply is high. Why does the glass have to be half empty......

I'm not sayin... I'm just sayin.

And no, I'm not a tree huggin hippy... but I work for an alternative energy company, and I thank the G.D. hippys every day for providing a new market for our company to thrive in....
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I pay an extra fee per KwH to fund alternative energy resources.
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