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Old December 15th, 2008, 10:45 AM   #1
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I have been looking into the idea of going to school to work on windmills.

Just wondering if any of you work in alternative energy, and if so where did you get your start? I am currently a tree climber, and want out. I have no electrical exp. But find working with windmills to be kinda interesting, and it seems like a career that would be stable.

Ive found MIAT's site, and it looks like it could be an ok program, just wondering what some of you thought.

http://miat.edu/index.php?option=com...d=34&Itemid=50
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Old December 15th, 2008, 10:49 AM   #2
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I was in mcbain when they put the blades/hub on the second windmill there, it was an incredible sight. I think that we need to use more of these. not only would it create jobs but green electricity.
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I went to MIAT when it was MIOA to be an aircraft mech. Personally, I loved it. It was actually fun and exciting to go to school every day, and you learned a lot. The mornings would typically be spent in a classroom, and the rest of the day in the shop working on projects.

But there were a lot of people there who hated it too. Though, I think it was just the set of people who really had no interest. They were just at school to be at school.


IDK if they still offer it, but there were a multitude of scholarships you can get. They even give you $1000 for doing well on the entrance exam if youre in the top percentile. I ended up going there for 18 months for just about nothing.
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Ive found MIAT's site, and it looks like it could be an ok program, just wondering what some of you thought.

http://miat.edu/index.php?option=com...d=34&Itemid=50
I went in to check it out. 19K for 11months of school. YOU WILL BE RELOCATED. The 60-80K to start is INCLUDING O.T.

It is not in my best interest currently
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I went in to check it out. 19K for 11months of school. YOU WILL BE RELOCATED. The 60-80K to start is INCLUDING O.T.

It is not in my best interest currently
i am looking at a very similar deal at hobart. the cost of the schooling, starting wages and the time it takes to complete are almost identical. but i am young and single, so its much more viable for me. compare it to the cost of a bachelors, time needed to earn it and the starting salary, its not that bad of a deal.
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I have only talked to them on the phone, and I now see why he wouldnt quote it over the phone.

I understand I will be relocated.........be at this present moment....I dont really care. I would like to get out of Oakland county.

Did you know of any other schools around this area that offer courses?
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Old December 15th, 2008, 11:18 AM   #8
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I went to MIAT when it was MIOA to be an aircraft mech. Personally, I loved it. It was actually fun and exciting to go to school every day, and you learned a lot. The mornings would typically be spent in a classroom, and the rest of the day in the shop working on projects.

But there were a lot of people there who hated it too. Though, I think it was just the set of people who really had no interest. They were just at school to be at school.


IDK if they still offer it, but there were a multitude of scholarships you can get. They even give you $1000 for doing well on the entrance exam if youre in the top percentile. I ended up going there for 18 months for just about nothing.
This seems like a career that I would enjoy. So I think I would be into it.

Good to hear someone liked the school.
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Definitely go in and check it out. If you have never made over 60K it could very much be worth your while.
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Definitely go in and check it out. If you have never made over 60K it could very much be worth your while.
Thats the thing. Ive had a years that I have. But then there are years like the past few. That have sucked bad.
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That's the thing. Ive had a years that I have. But then there are years like the past few. That have sucked bad.
I've been in the tree biz since 2001 (working for myself). It's been a steady decline over the past few years. Winters have been very tough. I went back to school for some security. I am in a electrical utility lineworker program at Delta in Saginaw. Right now is the time to take care of schooling to ensure a future.
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I've been in the tree biz since 2001 (working for myself). It's been a steady decline over the past few years. Winters have been very tough. I went back to school for some security. I am in a electrical utility lineworker program at Delta in Saginaw. Right now is the time to take care of schooling to ensure a future.
I also work for myself. Have been for 5 years now.

I have also looked into linework, but I think the windmills would be something a litlle more interesting.
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I was in mcbain when they put the blades/hub on the second windmill there, it was an incredible sight. I think that we need to use more of these. not only would it create jobs but green electricity.
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This seems like a career that I would enjoy. So I think I would be into it.

Good to hear someone liked the school.

The aircraft mech program isnt just applicable to aircraft only. Its a very broad program. Some of the things I have learned there....and still use...


Sheet metal fabrication
Sheet metal repair
Riveting
Welding (torch and TIG)
Composite repair and fabrication (carbon fiber, kevlar, and glass)
Hydraulic diagnosis and repair
Advanced electronic diagnosis, fabrication and repair
Reciprocating engine diagnosis and overhaul
Turbine engine diagnosis and overhaul
Painting
Non destructive testing

As well as a whole bunch of other smaller skills associated with all of that.


If you want, I can go dig out my sheet metal projects and post some pics of the kinds of things they teach you/ make you do.
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I was in mcbain when they put the blades/hub on the second windmill there, it was an incredible sight. I think that we need to use more of these. not only would it create jobs but green electricity.
Unfortunately, you, along with 99.9% of the rest of the world, do not understand the economics, geography, engineering, or operational issues related to so-called green energy. Windmills, while seemingly "free", in many instances actually increase the cost of electricity. Instead of building one power plant to serve the load, you now build a windmill, yet still have to have a back-up power source for those days that the wind isn't blowing, it isn't blowing at a steady speed, or is blowing too hard to allow the windmills to turn. These are causing a multitude of operational issues all over the US right now and will result in higher energy costs, not lower. But, politicians and tree huggers alike are jumping on the bandwagon because 99.9% of the people out there believe they are a good thing.
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Most of the windmills (about 90%) presently being built or planned in America are in a wind band that extends through the plains from North and South Dakota, Iowa, SW Minnesota, Kansas and Nebraska. These are the most consistent wind areas we have other than small pockets in some states. In Michigan, the best feasible areas are along the NW portion of the state and some pockets in the thumb. Some have and will be built here but not on the scale of the plains states.

I have been involved with nearly all the wind farms constructed in Michigan and a good portion in Iowa. Most have been assembled by union workers form Operating Engineer loacals and electrical (IBEW) unions. Most non-union work on these have been in the engineering and management portions of the constructions. Some of the manufacturers like Siemans and John Deere have field technicians that are not union based and are well paid. Drawbacks to the field technicians is that you don't see home too often, but probably the best job in this field because there are thousands that will be built over the next ten years and they will all need to be maintained over a 20-30 year average life span. Just some thought.

Oh by the way. No one that works for me or that is contracted by me went to MIAT (or at least that I know of). Most have engineering degrees or came through apprentice programs.
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Oh by the way. No one that works for me or that is contracted by me went to MIAT (or at least that I know of). Most have engineering degrees or came through apprentice programs.
I dont think theyve been doing their energy program for very long. Id say no more than 2 years or so. And I dont personally know anyone that took their energy program, only the A&P program.


And they dont just do windmills in that program, they also do steam turbines IIRC.
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I also work for myself. Have been for 5 years now.

I have also looked into linework, but I think the windmills would be something a litlle more interesting.

It may not be as trendy to be a line worker but I'd bet you'd find a job. The current line workers are getting older and newer folks are not coming in to fill jobs. There is/will be a shortage, at least that's what I've been hearing around here at the utility I work for.
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Look!!! People are still alive in Dansville.
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