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Old December 13th, 2008, 01:23 PM   #1
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What do you feel was the first successful, reliable 4 banger built by the Big 3?

The only real personal experience I have with one is the SOHC 2.0 in the second gen Dodge Neon. While they had a head gasket issue (the curse of most aluminum head inline motors) I feel it was a successful motor.

Compared to the Mazda 2.0 I had in high school it was not as fun to drive, but it did have more HP.

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Old December 13th, 2008, 01:26 PM   #2
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Old December 13th, 2008, 01:29 PM   #3
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Ford's 134 cube, 22 horsepower flathead. Introduced in 1908.
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The 2.0 and the 2.4 dodge 4cyl. were both good motors in my book.And there is an abundance of after market parts for them to get good power.I have a 2.0 SOHC motor in my DD and rev it to 7000 daily.And the 2.4 is what I'm building my single seat moon buggy with.Pretty easy to get 200HP and remain reliable.
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Old December 13th, 2008, 01:52 PM   #7
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2nd only to special ed's submission, The 2300 ford.
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2nd only to special ed's submission, The 2300 ford.
x2.

Rally course guys are getting 300hp out of them.

They even came turbocharged

I had a couple, they just run forever.
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x2.

Rally course guys are getting 300hp out of them.

They even came turbocharged

I had a couple, they just run forever.
as long as you change your timming belts religiously.
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as long as you change your timming belts religiously.
well a belt is a wear item.......




As far as the 4cyl goes, i'd say the Model T

It was a reliable Flex Fuel Engine that was cheap
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Old December 13th, 2008, 02:51 PM   #12
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2nd only to special ed's submission, The 2300 ford.
yup yup!

I had that in my 88 Tbird Turbo Coupe. I was NOT nice to it, and it was a fantastic motor! That was a pretty heavy car, and back then I was getting 28 mpg on the highway with it.
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When I was stationed in ND we had these (late 80's) Chevy S10 work trucks with utility boxes on the back. They had some sort of 4 cylinder, and even on the coldest mornings (like 20 below) they would start up and run great. We never had a problem with any of them.
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x2.

Rally course guys are getting 300hp out of them.

They even came turbocharged

I had a couple, they just run forever.

I know a mustang that runs mid nines with a turbocharged 2.3
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Ford turboed that 2300 for the Mustangs, the Tbirds, and was that also the same one in the early Probe GT's?
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Turbo Dodge 2.2L for 1985 they rocked.


It wasn't really that the big never made a great 4cyl, it was the fact that they made several million horrible ones.
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The only real personal experience I have with one is the SOHC 2.0 in the second gen Dodge Neon. While they had a head gasket issue (the curse of most aluminum head inline motors) I feel it was a successful motor.
I had the same problem with the one my wife had. The dealership took care of it though for $200 IIRC.

The Saturn that my Parents now have is a 96 with a SOHC. It has been fantastic after I replaced a cracked head. Again, another known problem on those motors from bad casting design. I bought a new head that had teh casting problems fixed and it just keeps on running and running, getting 33 mpg on the highway.
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Ford turboed that 2300 for the Mustangs, the Tbirds, and was that also the same one in the early Probe GT's?

no that was a Mazda 2.2
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No kidding, I think there was a variation of that in the old Forktruck that was used at the Mott auto tech lab, built in 1940's something. The thing was NOT taken care of but I believe is still running.
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I was trying to think of how old the 2300s design was? I know they had them in early German made Capri's and the first Pinto's had the down sized 1600 version. the courier pick we had in `83 has a 2000cc one that was a dog. my buddy Fred had a 2300 with twin weber carbs and some weird header for SCCA racing
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