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Old January 22nd, 2009, 03:30 PM   #121
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Down here in Cali there's a lot of rigs running huge tires on the street. The other week some guy in a new Silverado pulled up beside me, all I could see was his tires. The roof of my Jeep Cherokee, 4.5"-5.5" of lift, 32s, was actually lower than his hood I'm sure. Doesn't mean anyone around here wheels, I'm sure a lot of them don't, but it's just kinda different.
I liked wheeling with my 31s, it was a lot of fun. Sure I couldn't go too far but I'd rather pay attention to lockers and axles than lift and tires. Just because you have giant tires and lift doesn't mean you know how to use it right, and plus it's more of a thrill to take something lower and wheel it. Seems like more skill and it seems to attract more attention.
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Old February 9th, 2009, 09:40 PM   #122
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the OP of this thread must just be a huge web wheeler that has his nose in too many magazines. monkeybutt or whatever your name is, put your brain to something more useful... go out and wheel, then report back
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Old February 10th, 2009, 07:11 PM   #123
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IMO, a TJ really shouldn't run anything bigger than 35's for 90-95% of what is out there in the country. CoG, drivetrain, traction, etc... all come into play and frankly bigger is not better, its merely faster in some respects and more beyond the edge of control.
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Old February 11th, 2009, 11:24 AM   #124
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I disagree, my TJ with a 6in long arm and 35s was capable; Yes.. But my new set up with 40s is 2 in lower than with 35s and better design.. And im sure we can find some trials at the badlands or in CO even that a rig with under 35s wont make it.. I know for a fact theres those trails in CO
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Old February 11th, 2009, 11:56 AM   #125
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the OP of this thread must just be a huge web wheeler that has his nose in too many magazines. monkeybutt or whatever your name is, put your brain to something more useful... go out and wheel, then report back
He was merely asking a question to stir up some discussion not because he cares....and he does wheel his shit
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Old February 11th, 2009, 12:07 PM   #126
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Old February 11th, 2009, 12:47 PM   #127
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I disagree, my TJ with a 6in long arm and 35s was capable; Yes.. But my new set up with 40s is 2 in lower than with 35s and better design.. And im sure we can find some trials at the badlands or in CO even that a rig with under 35s wont make it.. I know for a fact theres those trails in CO
Yeah, but what are you running for axles? You must have cut the fenders to be lower with your 40s. I agree with Lothos that MOST TJs are better off running 35s or smaller. And he did say 90-95%. I know for a fact, that with the exeption of really deep mud, you'd be hard pressed to find a place in Michigan you can go that I couldn't follow with my 33s.
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Yeah, but what are you running for axles? You must have cut the fenders to be lower with your 40s. I agree with Lothos that MOST TJs are better off running 35s or smaller. And he did say 90-95%. I know for a fact, that with the exeption of really deep mud, you'd be hard pressed to find a place in Michigan you can go that I couldn't follow with my 33s.
don't forget deep snow. The issue is 35 I believe is the cutoff for upgrades to the stock components of the TJ/JK and 37+ is where you have to seriously open the purse. And honestly, its where the vehicle stops being a capable DD and is relagated to trail rig only status.
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don't forget deep snow. The issue is 35 I believe is the cutoff for upgrades to the stock components of the TJ/JK and 37+ is where you have to seriously open the purse. And honestly, its where the vehicle stops being a capable DD and is relagated to trail rig only status.
Funny you should mention snow. Last weekend I went out with a few trucks (one of which runs 40s and 1 ton driveline) I could stay on top of the snow and drive anywhere I wanted. It must have looked funny to see my little TJ pulling out that 1ton Bronco.
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you'd be hard pressed to find a place in Michigan you can go that I couldn't follow with my 33s.
Mounds, OSTC, Rocks & Valleys, Twisted Trails, Turtle Ridge. I can't speak for the rigs with 40's that you pulled out of the snow but I'd like to see it.
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Old February 11th, 2009, 04:02 PM   #132
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Mounds, OSTC, Rocks & Valleys, Twisted Trails, Turtle Ridge. I can't speak for the rigs with 40's that you pulled out of the snow but I'd like to see it.
ditto.

if there's a rig on 33s behind me, I usually go different places than if there's a rig on 40s behind me. Maybe they are being nice and don't want to exclude you.
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Old February 11th, 2009, 04:17 PM   #133
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x3 there is alot of places i could not go with my old setup.(35's)after i went to 40's i added a whole new grin factor! you do need to upgrade other things with that big of tire.my jeep is also 3 inches lower with the 40's then it was on 35's.
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x3 there is alot of places i could not go with my old setup.(35's)after i went to 40's i added a whole new grin factor! you do need to upgrade other things with that big of tire.my jeep is also 3 inches lower with the 40's then it was on 35's.
Don't get me wrong, big Jeeps (or any trucks) are sweet. But you're Jeep is pretty heavily modified if I remember correctly. I guess what I'm talking about is the TJs with a 4'' short arm lift, 3'' of body lift stock axles/gears and 37s that still rub.

When I say I can run with the 37+ guys, I'm not trying to sound cool. I've just found that my smaller, lighter Jeep has an advantage in some situations where I can run on top while the 1 ton guys are using every bit of tire trying to hit bottom for traction. Out in the snow last weekend, you could see where Ryans Bronco was dragging the axle tubes through the snow. I could run along side him, and my tracks showed where I was just parting the snow with my pig.

I haven't been to OSTC in awhile, but last time I was there, I watched a guy climb all but a few hills in a stock ZJ. He picked good lines and skinny peddled his way up.

Last time I was at Twisted Trails was Jeep fest. I know alot has changed since then but aside from bending a tierod and getting stuck in a bottomless mud hole, I had no problems going anywhere I pointed it.

I've never been to the mounds but from what I understand it's just a bunch of mud holes. I'm not really in to deep mud running or else I would have build my rig for it (I don't know, maybe I'd run 40s or something)

Anyway, I'd love the oppertunity to follow some of you guys into places where you don't think I can go. If nothing else, it'll make for some good stuck pics.
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Mounds and OSTC have rocks that you apparently didn't play on. There are also some steep peaks at the mounds that you are likely to get high centered on. You've also rewritten your description from rigs with 40" tires (which are usually true to size) to rigs with 37" tires which in most cases measure closer to 35-36". So, the difference in tire size you are now talking about is far less than what you started with.

Sorry to dissapoint you but I won't be at the dog party.
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Mounds and OSTC have rocks that you apparently didn't play on. There are also some steep peaks at the mounds that you are likely to get high centered on. You've also rewritten your description from rigs with 40" tires (which are usually true to size) to rigs with 37" tires which in most cases measure closer to 35-36". So, the difference in tire size you are now talking about is far less than what you started with.

Sorry to dissapoint you but I won't be at the dog party.
With the new rig builds trying to stay as low as possible, will high centering be a big differance? What I mean is alot of rigs now sit the same height weather on 35" or 40" tires, does a bigger tire reduce high centering (especially if people stretch more as they run bigger tires).

Just looking for others thoughts???
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Old February 12th, 2009, 07:41 AM   #139
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37" tires which in most cases measure closer to 35-36". So, the difference in tire size you are now talking about is far less than what you started with.


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So, what do most 35" tires measure? I just got some 35" mtr's I will have to measure them.
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