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Old December 3rd, 2008, 09:18 PM   #1
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1996 escort 1.9 loses a quart ever ~150 miles. I don't see any leaks(qt a week should leave a decent puddle), and It doesn't smoke. No oil in the coolant either.
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Old December 3rd, 2008, 10:09 PM   #2
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believe it or not, I had a similar problem with my 88 Cavalier.

2 quarts a tank. Never smoked or leaked.

It had to do with the PCV valve. The valve was good but because my grandfather only put 21,000 on it (very early in it's lifetime, it sat for pretty much 6 years before I got it). There was a little rubber o-ring that went around it, either dry-rotted off, fell off naturally, or was removed by one of the crooked shop guys from the place he always too kit to even though we kept telling him they were taking him for a ride.

Check and see how oily the throttle body is.

After we got that new o-ring, never lost a drop.

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My bet is that Gremlins are stealing it at night
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scooter comes at night, opens the hood and sucks the oil from the dip stick fill.


is it going into the air filter housing?

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Old December 4th, 2008, 11:18 AM   #5
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My bet is that Gremlins are stealing it at night
syphoned by neighbor?

did oil consumption decline as oil came down to $70bbl?
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Old December 4th, 2008, 12:00 PM   #6
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HAHAHA thats exactyly what I told my sister was wrong with it,

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scooter comes at night, opens the hood and sucks the oil from the dip stick fill.


is it going into the air filter housing?
Nope air filter housing is bone dry
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syphoned by neighbor?

did oil consumption decline as oil came down to $70bbl?
Car is locked at all times.
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Buy a chevy wont have anymore problems
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a drag car preferably..


no oil leak
no oil in anti-freeze
no burning

dip stick was stolen and then replaced with a shorter one
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1. I had a Chevy with this very problem.

2. There's no reason it would be in the airfilter housing because it's way upstream of any passage leading to any oil source.

Did you check the throttle body? or the line from the pcv valve to the intake?
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Just because you never see any smoke out the tail pipe doesn't mean it isn't being burnt.
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Just because you never see any smoke out the tail pipe doesn't mean it isn't being burnt.
GM has a point,

lock yourself in the garage with the doors all closed and sealed tight. Start the car up and let it run for a long time, make sure you don't leave, all the while breathing in as deep as you can to see if you can detect any burn oil in the air.

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Just because you never see any smoke out the tail pipe doesn't mean it isn't being burnt.
A quart every 150 miles would be alot of smoke. I have had vehicles that smoked like crazy and only went through a quart every 750-1000 miles.
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A quart every 150 miles would be alot of smoke. I have had vehicles that smoked like crazy and only went through a quart every 750-1000 miles.
I'm trying to tell you! Mine did the same thing, 2 quarts a tank, or 2 quarts about every 300/350 miles. NO SMOKE.

1988 Cavalier, 2.0L I4.

Will you check the damn PCV valve already?
(or preferable, downstream of it, I'll bet it's covered in oil.)
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I'm trying to tell you! Mine did the same thing, 2 quarts a tank, or 2 quarts about every 300/350 miles. NO SMOKE.

1988 Cavalier, 2.0L I4.

Will you check the damn PCV valve already?
(or preferable, downstream of it, I'll bet it's covered in oil.)
I am going to, I jsut wanted to argue my point. I work 10-8s so I don't feel like messing with it. Although I did notice oil around the pcv valve when I looked at it the other day.
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the smoke comes mainly from how the oil enters the combustion chamber...if it comes from the valve stem seals, then it basically drips in, so it doesn't all burn there, some burns while in the exhaust...if the oil gets into the system earlier (in the airstream, such as through the PCV) then it is atomized more, so it may very well burn all of it in the combustion chamber, as if it were fuel
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A quart every 150 miles would be alot of smoke. I have had vehicles that smoked like crazy and only went through a quart every 750-1000 miles.
Those are other vehicles.

If it's not getting burnt, where else is it going?
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If its worth anything I worked on a escort the other day at the shop and it kept going low on oil and there was a TSB for it. The TSB said that in colder weather the pcv valve can freeze, building excessive crankcase pressure, pushing out the dipstick and pumping out some oil with it. Dont know if thats the case with yours.
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Old December 17th, 2008, 08:39 PM   #19
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I have to agree with Yotabill. they are known for sucking oil at the valve seals. secondly any engine will under the right conditions. also the rings will let some by. I suggest that you either change oil brands or carry lots with you.

as an example I used to drive a `76 pontiac Aster( same as Vega) it had a 140 alluminum engine. it ate a couple cylinders and was using oil. I used to raid the oil barrels at my buddy station and carried around 7-10 gallons with me at any given time. to say the least it smoked. I managed to make the whole U of M football stadium dispear one day while tring to keep it running at the light out front. after the cops pulled me over a couple of time I went to the store and bought a bunch of stick on letters. in 4" letters it said "Experimental" front and rear. the cops never bothered me again. I told them it ran on waste oil.
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It only has like 2000 miles on a rebuilt head. I just checked it a little better yesterday, and there is no visible leaks, except a little around the pcv valve.
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