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Old November 29th, 2008, 03:05 PM   #1
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Default RBV's Trans + T-case Q?

Alright, I have a 95 4.0L stick ranger and for now it is 2wd. My one "know it all" brother tried telling me that all the t-cases are the same (for RBV's), if that is true then I have a t-case from a 88 2.9 bronco II (that was a stick). Would I be able to use my trans that is in the truck with switching the 2wd trans tail housing with a 4wd tail housing so I could bolt up the t-case that I have.

Or do I just have to find a 4.0L 4x4 manual trans with a t-case in the junkyard?

If anyone could help I would appreciate it, Thanks.
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Old November 29th, 2008, 03:11 PM   #2
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You need a 4x4 Ranger trans and a tcase (1354 Manual shift) or (1350 Manual Shift). The 1350 is what you have out of the 88 broncoII. That case will work out fine but the 1354 is a stronger unit.
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Old November 29th, 2008, 03:17 PM   #3
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So I cant use the trans at all with some replacement parts? Kinda got info going both ways, Saying that I just have to switch out the tail end of the trans so I could bolt up the t-case.

Thanks for the info.
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Old November 29th, 2008, 03:33 PM   #4
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So I cant use the trans at all with some replacement parts? Kinda got info going both ways, Saying that I just have to switch out the tail end of the trans so I could bolt up the t-case.

Thanks for the info.
ive never heard of swapping tailhousings on Rangers to make them 4x4. BroncoII's you can convert to 4x4 really easy by just swapping on a tcase.

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Old November 29th, 2008, 03:39 PM   #5
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Search www.therangerstation.com i read it somewhere and im almost positive you need a 4x4 trans to convert it to 4x4.
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Old November 29th, 2008, 06:19 PM   #6
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You technically CAN swap tailshafts if they're from the same transmission type. Your 4.0L tranny is an M50D-R1, any M50d-R1 4x4 tranny will have the correct tailshaft and will fit in yours (2.3L, 3.0L and other 4.0L - even though the bellhousings are different and some of the 1st-3rd ratio's are different). However, that involves disassembling almost the entire transmission, so it is far easier (and not uncommon at all) to just find a 4.0L 4x4 manual tranny and just swap it all out as a unit. IMPORTANT NOTE: The 4.0L has it's own bellhousing pattern, in order to swap out the tranny as a whole you will need a 4x4 M50D-R1 from a 4.0L engine (2.3L and 3.0L tranny's will not work).

For whatever reason there is a length difference between 4wd and 2wd tailshafts.

Your other option is:

Since your 88 BII has a 2.9L V6, the bellhousing pattern is the same. I believe you can even use the existing 4.0L clutch components and that transmission will bolt up to the 4.0L block. Though forewarning, this is considered a bit of a downgrade from the M50D. It's a different trans, I can't remember the designation off the top of my head.

On a quick little note about the 1350's and the 1356's. They're virtually the same internally. The 1356 is considered more valuable because it has a fixed front output and the 1350 has a slip yoke front output. there might be some strength differences in the front output but otherwise they're virtually the same. Both have been tested extensively behind V8 powerplants and have a good reputation behind them.

On "all the t-cases being the same" he's probably referring to the bolt pattern. Any 1350 and 1356 will technically swap with eachother, regardless of year, regardless of transmission, manual or automatic, electric or manual shift cases. They all have the same splines and bolt pattern.

Phew...

So, in conclusion, it would be easier to find a transmission already in that particular configuration from the junkyard.




I like Rangers lol

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4x4 trans ftw lol
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Old November 29th, 2008, 09:34 PM   #8
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Alright, So I will just go with a trans and t-case from teh junkyard, it would but somewhat easier... if I could find one in the junkyard. I guess its time to start gathering parts once I get money.


Thanks for all of the info guys, it was a bunch of help.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 12:10 AM   #10
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Whoops.

Whenever I mention 1356 in my above post, I actually mean 1354.

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Old November 30th, 2008, 10:09 AM   #11
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ive never heard of swapping tailhousings on Rangers to make them 4x4. BroncoII's you can convert to 4x4 really easy by just swapping on a tcase.

i swapped mine

before


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now that is what I was thinking, was it hard? Or just as easy as taking a t-case off a trans. That could save me a hundred bux right there.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 10:33 AM   #13
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now that is what I was thinking, was it hard? Or just as easy as taking a t-case off a trans. That could save me a hundred bux right there.
looks like that is an auto, dont know what kinda differences youd be running into there
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The tail looks bout the same, I will actually look more into this now.
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now that is what I was thinking, was it hard? Or just as easy as taking a t-case off a trans. That could save me a hundred bux right there.
i got the shaft and housing from a good friend that owns a trans shop for FREE.

i had to disassemble the entire transmission to get to one little snap ring to swap the shaft.

for me it was easy.
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nice work 04Edge
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i got the shaft and housing from a good friend that owns a trans shop for FREE.

i had to disassemble the entire transmission to get to one little snap ring to swap the shaft.

for me it was easy.
Thats the kicker. Any 4wd M50D from a Ranger, or Explorer (I think the M50d's were after the BII era) the tailshaft will swap out. If your tranny is good and you can track down the extension housing and that shaft for cheap enough (I can assume that you feel comfortable with the disassembly) then by all means thats the way to go.

I'm currently gathering up the last bits to convert my '97 Ranger to 4wd. Though I'm rebuilding my transmission period because it's got 200,000 on it, and while I haven't been necessarily stupid with it, I've loaded that poor truck up way more than it should have been, and regularly.

I'm actually planning a write up on it because soooo many people ask about it.

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I will go with whatever I find first, whether its the whole trans +t-case or If I can get the parts from the junikyard. and then sell what I can.
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