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Old November 24th, 2008, 11:10 AM   #81
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Old November 24th, 2008, 02:34 PM   #82
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People care because that smashed car pictured was smashed because Anthony took a rig the steering wasn't finished on (IIRC full hydro) and drove it on the street/highway against what the shop building it told him. It caused an accident that some people could have been seriously injured in. I am not aware of all the details as it was back in the MJ days and I can barely remember yesterday but I thought he (Anthony) tried to sue the SHOP despite it being his ignorance.

Once again someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. Did you build it the first time? Are you affiliated with the shop who did? Did you buy the parts on my invoice? Please quit jumping on the band wagon acting like you know what is going on with something you know very little about. You weren't there.

You are right about one thing. The steering did fail. The drag link fell off. But it DID NOT have full hydro, at the time, it only had hydro assist. It does how ever have full hydro now.

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Old November 24th, 2008, 02:45 PM   #83
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Regardless of who knows what about patents and how they work, the design and it's functionality is under a "patent pending".

Yes, all you would have to do is change one thing and make it your own. Same goes for everything else in the world.

You don't have to like it, or share the same views. Call it a waste of $$$ to get the patent process going. When a manufacturer gets on board with the idea, and starts to produce it, then we'll see who matters to who.

But for now, discuss, and assume, and entertain yourselves about me and what I do in my life. I actually enjoy reading the you people (if the shoe fits) create over me or my past.

Thanks Chop for trying to show the public a few pics of the rig, and trying to stop some of the . But as you can see, no matter who posts what, when, where & how, it will never sit well with someone out there and the soap opera will continue.


And thanks again to those of you who like it and are giving positive feedback. It is all appreciated.


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Old November 24th, 2008, 02:58 PM   #84
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Once again someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. Did you build it the first time? Are you affiliated with the shop who did? Did you buy the parts on my invoice? Please quit jumping on the band wagon acting like you know what is going on with something you know very little about. You weren't there.

It didn't have full hydro, at the time it had hydro assist. It does how ever have full hydro now.
Then clear it up so people might quit bashing you... were you or were you not told NOT to take it on the street? Was the steering done, or was it not? Did something not fail and the jeep roll and wipe out that car despite the fact you were told not to take it on the street?
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Old November 24th, 2008, 03:29 PM   #85
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You are correct. If you are under a patent pending, you are not obligated to disclose your invention. Nor will the patent office acknowldege your application to inquiring minds. So, that being said, any word from your patent attorney about the progress or when it might be reviewed?
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Old November 24th, 2008, 03:32 PM   #86
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Regardless of who knows what about patents and how they work, the design and it's functionality is under a "patent pending".

Yes, all you would have to do is change one thing and make it your own. Same goes for everything else in the world.

You don't have to like it, or share the same views. Call it a waste of $$$ to get the patent process going. When a manufacturer gets on board with the idea, and starts to produce it, then we'll see who matters to who.

just before you get your head so far up your you can hear this I thought I'd clear it up for you....

you say "patent pending" what that means is that it is being reviewed by the patent board to see if it is a reasonable and legitimate claim that is truely unique and patent-able. How long has this been in the process? How about you give us the application number? even if it was submitted you will have that number.

and if you even think a company is going to copy your design (which isnt even that creative) all they would have to do is change one little thing aand get around your "patent pending" idea. and I'm sure that IF a company ever produced a design to be manufactured it would be much more creative and thought out than the one on your vehicle.

patents are only good for 7 years if I remember correctly... about 3 of those are already over with!!!! you better come up with something new to patent pend. perhaps rear steer with rockwells on a grand cherokee since you are the first person to do it with a hemi

seriously dude, quit being such a douche bag and people might not be such a dick to you.

Chop, you guys are doing some pretty good work, hopefully this guy does more good than harm for 2TM
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Old November 24th, 2008, 03:56 PM   #87
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He's not legally bound to tell us anything. Under the patent laws, at this stage he can do a lot of posturing.

Oh, 19 years now on a patent.
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Old November 24th, 2008, 04:12 PM   #88
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Regardless of who knows what about patents and how they work, the design and it's functionality is under a "patent pending".

One of my best friends is a engineer, patent lawyer and patent illustrator. smart guy. anyhoo, patent pending can be issued while you go through the patent process and determine if the product is profitable or not. most often a patent pending umbrella is used for cheap trinkets and such where quick money is to be made on something. it will protect from copies and cost less than a full patent and obtainable more quickly. the court giving you a patent pending label will give you a timeframe of use based on your research of marketing. this would include manufacturers who showed interest in your idea. at the expiration of your pending allowance you would have to show that you are moving forward or it will get tossed. seen it happen lots of times. your regular patent could be down to the last review and still be denied. it really doesn't mean shit for something like an exo-cage. the fact that you would even spend the amount of money to pursure any type of patent for a ZJ exo-cage either means you are stupid, full of yourself or just like wasting money on stuff that will make others driving a lesser rig give your ego a blowjob every time you talk about your "patent". I can think of a lot better stuff to spend the cash on considering the average patent costs $8k +/-

Yes, all you would have to do is change one thing and make it your own. Same goes for everything else in the world.

again, wrong. an existing patent can be improved upon but you will have to prove that the changes made distinctly are different or perform some other function than the original patent. also in terms of typefaces you must alter at least 3 characters in noticeable fashion.
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does it have anything to do with the 8 ball gussets?
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Old November 24th, 2008, 04:17 PM   #90
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Old November 24th, 2008, 04:25 PM   #91
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....your all missing the point.

anthony said it was pat. pending due to it's functionality. so, in all regards a cage that protects life / vechile body damage and as 8-ball style, will and shall be owned by rights of . Should it be deemed pat pending worthy. :^) so if u build a functioning cage send your $ to anthony and a bacon pockets sticker package will be send with his best wishes.

bout time real axles went under a 8k monstrosity!

otherwise nice job chop :P
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this project reminds me of this, probably just as practical http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...raction+diesel
I like it for being different. some real good work is being done, I'm just happy its not mine & I'm not paying for it.
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I've never wanted to comment on this, until now.



Lets say I took my dog's leash, and riveted "sassy girl" tags to it. Yes, it would probably be unique, but nothing new. I could patent it, but could see no reason to other than for recognition.

Which leads to the sponsor stickers, and the constant self-promotion. I'd think people would be more receptive to the actual build if it weren't for the constant attention whoring going on with this thing. It's a nice rig, but I don't think that when I see it. I think of cheesy Wireless Toyz stickers, "I'm on a magazine cover", road worker jackets and talking about it constantly. It's like a hot chick, but her mouth ruins it for her.

But, I always tend to lean toward the humble side.
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Then clear it up so people might quit bashing you... were you or were you not told NOT to take it on the street? Was the steering done, or was it not? Did something not fail and the jeep roll and wipe out that car despite the fact you were told not to take it on the street?

It's been cleared up 6 ways to Sunday. It doesn't matter. Everyone (again, if the shoe fits) has their own opinion, and recollection of what happened even though they weren't even there. A lot of hear say.

If anyone really wants to know happened, or needs help clearing up foggy memories, like if it was a "mini van" or "he killed a whole family", feel free to PM me and I will do my best to clear it up for you.

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just before you get your head so far up your you can hear this I thought I'd clear it up for you....

you say "patent pending" what that means is that it is being reviewed by the patent board to see if it is a reasonable and legitimate claim that is truely unique and patent-able. How long has this been in the process? How about you give us the application number? even if it was submitted you will have that number.

and if you even think a company is going to copy your design (which isnt even that creative) all they would have to do is change one little thing aand get around your "patent pending" idea. and I'm sure that IF a company ever produced a design to be manufactured it would be much more creative and thought out than the one on your vehicle.

patents are only good for 7 years if I remember correctly... about 3 of those are already over with!!!! you better come up with something new to patent pend. perhaps rear steer with rockwells on a grand cherokee since you are the first person to do it with a hemi

seriously dude, quit being such a douche bag and people might not be such a dick to you.

Chop, you guys are doing some pretty good work, hopefully this guy does more good than harm for 2TM

I'm not the one being a douche bag. Yes, I may have made some poor decisions in the past. But some of us learn from our mistakes and grow from them. It is the people (not all), on this site that keep kicking a dead horse, by bringing it up every chance they get. Hence the 30 different stories floating around out there.

Even Chad, UP Rocktoy, is actually being a little nicer to me. I would like to think the reason is because I have been making the attempt at being a better person to those who have a bad taste in their mouth about something I did in my past.

The point is, I am not the one who brings up the past. Chop tried to post a few pics of the progress for the inquiring minds on this site, and thus the bashing, though un provoked, began.

So who is being the douche bag now?
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Old November 24th, 2008, 07:09 PM   #96
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I've never wanted to comment on this, until now.



Lets say I took my dog's leash, and riveted "sassy girl" tags to it. Yes, it would probably be unique, but nothing new. I could patent it, but could see no reason to other than for recognition.

Which leads to the sponsor stickers, and the constant self-promotion. I'd think people would be more receptive to the actual build if it weren't for the constant attention whoring going on with this thing. It's a nice rig, but I don't think that when I see it. I think of cheesy Wireless Toyz stickers, "I'm on a magazine cover", road worker jackets and talking about it constantly. It's like a hot chick, but her mouth ruins it for her.

But, I always tend to lean toward the humble side.


I couldn't agree more. I haven't "self-promoted", or "attentioned whored", since the Off-Road Advenures thing. Everyone else keeps doing it for me. I have been lying back and reading all of the over me and my rig for some time now.

In the beginning, I thought it was ok to talk about the rig, and the sponsors, etc, etc. But after a few people started in on me for doing so, I suddenly became a big douche, and an attention whore, etc. etc.

So the question for me is, who really blew me out of proportion? Me, or the select few on this site who have made it their life's passion to try and continue the for their own personal entertainment?

Yes, I was once very excited about my rig, and yes I talked about it all the time. I was proud of it, and I wanted to share it with the world. Did I go about in a way that might have offended some people. Obviously. Was it intentional? No. Look at all of the other people out there who brag about their rigs. I'm not saying it is right. And obviously my past has a lot to do with the situation. But it is the past. Move on for crying out loud.

I am trying to post in a manner to be positive. I am not bashing anyone, or trying to be malicious, or a "douche". I just want to move forward, and try to get passed all of this B.S..
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wow, im lost why does everyone hate you Anthony? the rig is different, and cool in its own way!!!! Some one please clarify why all this poop of the mouth is happening?
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this project reminds me of this, probably just as practical http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...raction+diesel
I like it for being different. some real good work is being done, I'm just happy its not mine & I'm not paying for it.
That thing is bad ass
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