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Old November 18th, 2005, 12:21 PM   #1
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Please stop. It has come to our attention that there have been several posts on MJ the past couple days that are very inapproriate. We are working with them to put an end to this bullshit, as it seems everyone thinks we are at war with them. We are not at war, we have nothing against them, so quit. IP addresses have been logged by them and if any of those IP addresses reference individuals on here then it looks bad for our site, and by our site I mean all of us... we like it here and some trivial bullshit games being played is just ridiculous.

If it continues... then those same ip addresses will be banned here.
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Old November 18th, 2005, 12:33 PM   #2
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Uhhh...

I have noticed this also, one of the Screen Names being MisfitOffroaddotcom or something. If that person posting with that Screen Name happens to exist on GL, why would you ban them here?

I have not seen all the posts, so I do not know if the perp(s) is(are) directy referencing GL in any of them. That would of course be a different story.
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Old November 18th, 2005, 12:36 PM   #3
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A good number of the troops at Misfit are banned from MJ, and most don't bother going over there anyhow. I banned MisfitOffroadDotCom from our ranks as well, but that was over a year ago. Give me an IP that is doing it, and they will disappear from our sandbox as well.
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Old November 18th, 2005, 12:42 PM   #4
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why would you ban them here?
The reason they would be banned here is this is supposed to be a free wheeling site... knowing that some people perceive that there are hard feelings between the sites(even though there are none) may lead these people to do bad things over there.

We are not trying to cause trouble with them as they are not us. In the creation of this site I have worked closely with the mods over there to ensure to keep things at peace... ie when someone took DD's name on here i pm'd him over there to ensure it was him... and it was not... this was taken care of in a polite manner and no problems have arisen since.
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Old November 18th, 2005, 12:49 PM   #5
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thanks, Bill. I support your guys' efforts here. I just noticed a troll in OT and let "the powers that be" there know. I, for one, appreciate the spirit of commonality (if there is such a thing) that is developing, and I hope it continues. Both sites have lots to offer wheelers of all levels, whether you are a bystander like me or actively involved in the site!

Kudos to GL!!!
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Old November 18th, 2005, 12:51 PM   #6
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Yeah and then we get crap like this...

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You and CC need to stop fucking with MJ. There are a lot of negative things that are said on GL about MJ. When you are done screwing with MJ maybe you things won't get screwed with. CC is next watch your backs.

You can ban this name if you want I am just sending this to you for a fair warning. GL is pretty sweet but the MJ bashing is getting old and is making MJ go down hill.

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Old November 18th, 2005, 12:59 PM   #7
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I don't get it... the peeps who are screwing with MJ and sending you that stuff must not READ the boards. Yeah, there are digs here and there on both sites, and I admit, that I was initially kinda sore when the GL site opened (No, REALLY????) but both sites are growing and developing their own personalities. Lots of peeps post on both sites and both sites are becoming tolerant, if not respectful of each other. I'm sorry you guys are dealing with the crap. Sounds like J is too, since we talked to him to bring some stuff to his attention and get it taken care of. Last I knew, wheeling was a pretty liberal (okay, maybe not the best choice of words here, but you know what I mean) sport that pretty much supported everyone's involvement as long as you are respectful.


Gee, look at the time, must be 5 o'clock somewhere...
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Old November 18th, 2005, 01:07 PM   #8
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Okay, rational discussion here. Not intending to do any bashing.

I understand the point regarding DD's Screen Name, but where on GL is the about this subject other than in this Thread? I think you just brought it here, Bill. I also think that if GL does not want to give the appearance of competing with MJ, you should have chosen a title other than "Anti-Goderator" for yourself as it is directed at one person over there that many have cited as being a reason for their exodus.

But back on topic... I think this is an important situation, as it will show us if our leaders are going to govern in a fair manner. I looked at all the posts from that Misfit SN and none of them remotely included or suggested anything about GL. If MJ wants to ban that fool, let them do it. Are they going to cry to Pirate, too? Misfits also has good reson to give them the boot, but what has this tool really done to GL? I think that the ongoing discussion in the Gold Forum over there is probably doing more damage than this idiot Troll.

I'd like to look at all the posts in question in the interest of educating myself on the issue, so if there are other SN's, please PM them to me.
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Old November 18th, 2005, 01:14 PM   #9
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I did not see all of the posts... just one that I got a call about... but there are some pretty vulgar photos being posted, and a mod from there who i have dealt with for quite a while... even prior to GL asked for help... so we are helping... no as far as i know GL has not been referenced in the posts, but because alot of GL's roots came from MJ why wouldnt we help them...

as far as viewing the posts for yourself they are to vulgar to leave as is and have been deleted to my knowledge.

This thread is not to cause ... but prevent it... all i asked is a simple favor that if somone is posting inappropriate things over there and is a member of this site.. to please stop.... we are all adults here...
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Old November 18th, 2005, 01:18 PM   #10
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There was another posted recently there......
Not sure who's doing it, but I think CC's getting/may get blamed due to what is shown in the pics.

I don't have anything against MJ and I know CC doesn't either.

I'll continue to support both sites, so long as they stay respectable, and responsable.
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Old November 18th, 2005, 01:26 PM   #11
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anyone with half a brain and figure out how to not be tracked. the people doing it are idiots if they get caught
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Old November 18th, 2005, 01:59 PM   #12
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No, you're an idiot if you are doing shit in the first place.


There has seemed to be several posts over there with people getting worked up.

For some reason, CC's old post about finding Jesus behind the couch got dragged up, with a bunch of Churchies posting on it. Was pretty funny.
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Old November 18th, 2005, 02:06 PM   #13
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*sigh*

Lets just ignore the PG-13 BS. You and CC have made statements that this isn't a war, this isn't an Anti-MJ forum. That is all that we need.

Who gives a crap if someone on MJ thinks this is Bizzaro MJ. It's not.... so lets leave it at that.

People care to much what other people think.

If you guys want to ban someone for ANY reason it's your site... so ban em. This isn't a democracy... you don't want someone here... give em the boot.

I hate when sites coddle morons.
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Old November 18th, 2005, 03:18 PM   #14
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*sigh*

Lets just ignore the PG-13 BS. You and CC have made statements that this isn't a war, this isn't an Anti-MJ forum. That is all that we need.

Who gives a crap if someone on MJ thinks this is Bizzaro MJ. It's not.... so lets leave it at that.

People care to much what other people think.

If you guys want to ban someone for ANY reason it's your site... so ban em. This isn't a democracy... you don't want someone here... give em the boot.

I hate when sites coddle morons.

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Old November 18th, 2005, 03:21 PM   #15
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Old November 18th, 2005, 03:42 PM   #16
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Thats politics for ya , well maybe not politics but somthing like it :gman:

I know i have not bashed in either direction , thats the best i can do /:gman:
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Old November 18th, 2005, 03:43 PM   #17
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in time it will all come out who did what, where, why and when is always dose.
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Old November 18th, 2005, 04:01 PM   #18
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This is absolutely retarded..

Whoever is doing this, please stop. The whole creation of this site was to make a FUN AND INFORMATIVE site for everyone who 4x4's.

I have deleted about 30 posts that in my perspective made derogative references to other sites.. This won't be allowed..

This thread will slowly move into history.. I have banned 2 people from this site, and if I have even a hint that someone is causing animosity between MJ and here, Misfits and here, or anywhere else and here, it will be dealt with immediately.. This is absolutely ridiculous.

I'm not sure if the posts on MJ referenced any site, but if they had links, or talked about this site, then I am pissed..

If its just some tool posting on MJ, it sucks.. But that doesn't effect GL4x4 in the least bit. I am more then happy to do IP trades with them on trying to find out who it is, but I'm not going to alter this site because of some jackass over there causing issues. Why isn't this person just IP banned like I was? I had about 20 transactions going on with MJ PM's when I was deleted as a user there for absolutely no reason. This really screwed me over, because I lost alot of contact information, and especially alot of work that I was handling through there.

MJ screwed me over... Big time.. But this is the first, and last time I will post about it. I talked to Jeremy, and he said I was going to be let back in. That has yet to happen.

The only reason I am even posting this, is I have heard through the grapevine that people would think I would take the time to post lude and rude stuff on that site.. This pisses me off even more.

So, I get screwed by MJ. No big deal... I Sticky a michigan jeepers party reminder on this site. I delete every post ripping on MJ. I make sure to be the bigger man, and always be positive..

And what do I get in return? A MJ gold forum that is ripping me apart, constant posts on MJ ripping on me, mods that think I would post pictures of dicks all over, and I am left totally defensive, because I can't even log in and voice my opinion...

Kinda funny how these are the people now asking me for help..
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Old November 18th, 2005, 04:30 PM   #19
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Some of you know that I have questioned the motives behind this site. Many of my doubts have been laid to rest. I am a skeptical person so the rest will take time.

Just for the record, I do not condone lewd or hurtful posts on any board I frequent. Anyone who posts on either board in a negative fashion about the other with out real reasoning behind it (i.e. just to cause trouble) should be banned. What I have said on either site has been because of specific occurances. My mind can be changed by a valid point or debate.

I am glad that people have been respecting this board. Kelly, if/when you are allowed to post on MJ again, I hope that same respect is shown.

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And what do I get in return? A MJ gold forum that is ripping me apart, constant posts on MJ ripping on me, mods that think I would post pictures of dicks all over,
In all fairness, the gold forum is not ripping you apart. I make the offer to have anyone come to my house if they want to see what is being said in the gold forum. In fact, the regular forums are not referencing this site or CC much either.

P.S. I have not been on much in the last few days and have not seen the offensive posts that BioBill has reffered to. Thinking maybe the Mods were on the ball with the delete function.

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cool, Now can we get back to the regular schedule program?
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