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Old November 16th, 2008, 06:25 AM   #101
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Old November 16th, 2008, 09:35 AM   #102
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Going back to the topic:

After starting out, learning and building my rig in stages, there were always times I looked at something or thought of going somewhere that was precieved to be too hard. With that thought in mind and continuous failed attempts at larger trails I contiued to build and venture further out.

Travelling a good distance to wheel is great fun and you do get to see a lot of different things and scenery. We consider our couple trips a year vacations, with a little bonus.

There was a point though where a truck and trailer became a nice commodity. But the biggest adventures I had was driving back a forth with the rig, wheeling hard, fixing it and driving home. Two of the best I remember was to Canada w/ 33" and Drummond w/ 37" ... both on a dana 30.


So, YES, get out there and do some wheeling!
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Old November 16th, 2008, 09:52 AM   #103
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Going back to the topic:

After starting out, learning and building my rig in stages, there were always times I looked at something or thought of going somewhere that was precieved to be too hard. With that thought in mind and continuous failed attempts at larger trails I contiued to build and venture further out.

Travelling a good distance to wheel is great fun and you do get to see a lot of different things and scenery. We consider our couple trips a year vacations, with a little bonus.

There was a point though where a truck and trailer became a nice commodity. But the biggest adventures I had was driving back a forth with the rig, wheeling hard, fixing it and driving home. Two of the best I remember was to Canada w/ 33" and Drummond w/ 37" ... both on a dana 30.


So, YES, get out there and do some wheeling!
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Old November 16th, 2008, 10:05 AM   #104
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After years of building a show jeep. I never wanted to get it dirty and never wheeled it, just ask a few people. So I only trailered mine to the Badlands and let it sit there in the parking lot on the trailer. Because of this I sold it and now people will have to pick on the next trailer queen. But if I ever did wheel, the Badlands and Canada were my favorite. Your right about wheeling out of Michigan is much more to offer.
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Old November 17th, 2008, 07:43 AM   #105
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bump ... now that I understand what Brimey is referring to, this is an interesting topic, especially with smaller parks/venues that are within 4hrs of SE mich.


The other thing I'll mention too, is being comfortable with whom you're wheeling with makes a huge difference. For this matter is why I choose to be involved in an offroad club ... some people refer to them as cliques, but it is not always the case. This is very unfortunate, because this is one way misconcieved perceptions of a club or a group of people that wheel together get developed.

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I don't think cliques are a problem. We wheel with a selective group and we are very guarded about it, for this many think we are elitest pricks. But we like to keep our group tight and with that, we keep our trips moving along.

However, I do think it is important to get involved with a group, whether it is a club or a group of friends. As long as everyone has the same goal; wheeling, then it will help get you out there! But do beware that alot of clubs don't travel and don't wheel much.
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I don't think cliques are a problem. We wheel with a selective group and we are very guarded about it, for this many think we are elitest pricks. But we like to keep our group tight and with that, we keep our trips moving along.

However, I do think it is important to get involved with a group, whether it is a club or a group of friends. As long as everyone has the same goal; wheeling, then it will help get you out there! But do beware that alot of clubs don't travel and don't wheel much.
Yeah, there is nothing wrong with wanting to wheel with people with similar abilities and the same class of rigs. Regardless if you are talking stock Jeep or full buggies, there is something for everyone at most places, you just want to be with the guys that can go down the same trails as you.
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I don't have a problem with clubs as long as there is a common goal on club outings. I think the bigger problem is when a club gets too big, the goals and capabilities are too varied. I also don't think of those keeping to tight friends is wrong for the same reason. Once you get to know who you like to wheel with and who you can rely on, it makes a trip that much more fun. On a personal note, I find that some of my goals are changing and those that I have wheeled with in the past don't want to do what I want to do. Therefore, I am still kind of a lame duck.
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I would necessarily consider you a lame duck .. gramps.


The other fun thing about being self-effecient is you can be "choosey" as to whom and when you'd like to go wheeling.
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I like wheeling out of state... it's the only place I think I'll go anymore except for the mounds if they get the rock stuff figured out....

There was only one trail that I backed out of. it was voodoo (I think) at paragon, it was a guide only buggy run with guaranteed body damage. I made it in about 100yds before getting to the first can opener type of obsticle that was going to give body damage and tehre was no way around it. the others in the group didnt want anything to do with it so I backed out and took the next trail... looking back, I should have run it.

I would say that I am also an "elitist" also... I like to get on the trail and keep moving and not stop for useless crap all of the time which happens way too frequently with groups that arent on a mission.

anyways, that's my useless $0.02
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I would say that I am also an "elitist" also... I like to get on the trail and keep moving and not stop for useless crap all of the time which happens way too frequently with groups that arent on a mission.



"Sometimes" wheeling is fun stopping to BS every few minutes if it's boring terrain. But usually when traveling, maximum trail mileage is key.
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I have talked to alot of people here at the shop about wheeling parks down south. Most of them have told me that they are affraid of getting into trails that are too hard and wrecking their Jeeps or getting physical harm to themselves. Alot of these people also treat the Badlands with the same regards.

At every park I have wheeled (Badlands, Flat Nasty, Windrock, Tellico, and Harlan) all have about 5x as many intermediate trails then hardcore trails. None of the trails in any of those parks just turn into gnarly trails that are impossible. A jeep on 33's with open diffs could run most of tellico and on stuff you have problems with, alot have bypasses or easy places to winch.

Everytime we go down south, I have more and more fun. The first time running in the Mountains of Tellico, I was in awe of the scernery. People talk about 200' drop offs here and 300' drop off there, but I have never felt that my life was in harms way while wheeling on trails in higher altitude. I wish I would have had a less capable wheeler for Tellico, as most of the trails were intermidate.

I just am getting tired of listening to everyone say they are scared of these trails. You are really missing out on great views, fun trails and really enjoying long trail rides. If your affraid that if you go, you might feel embarrassed for not finishing something, get OVER IT! I have come upon alot of trails that I have not tried, or didn't finish. I would hate to see people never take a trip south because of their misconceptions of what the trails are really like!

Alot of these trails may close in the future ahead, So go and run them while you still can! Trust me, you won't regret it!

Rosie out.

I agree 100%

I have been to Tellico (2x), Harlan, SuperLift, and plan on going to WindRock soon and have loved every minute of every trip.

my truck is not highly modified (ifs, 33's, rear locker, armor) and I have never felt like I was out of place or in over my head.......there were plenty of trails to do and I have always been able to drive home. Sure I have aquired some body damage and a small pile of broken parts along the way but it is all good and fun!!
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