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Old November 12th, 2008, 03:56 PM   #1
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I have a 93 Ford Ranger, 2WD.

Well when I engage the clutch (There is no pedal issues what so ever doesnt matter how far clutch is down or anything) But when I engage the clutch there is a very loud grinding noise, But if you put the truck in nuetral the noise goes away. And sometimes the truck wont let me shift into anything except reverse. When the truck isnt warmed up it doesnt seem to do it at all. Anyone have any idea what might be going on.

I was pointing towards throw out bearing.
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Old November 12th, 2008, 04:36 PM   #2
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you have lost your input shaft bearing. it supports the main shaft and set the distance on your shift forks. the input shaft is in constant contact with the counter gear so reverse would work no matter what. so in the end your trans is hurt.
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Old November 12th, 2008, 05:09 PM   #3
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you have lost your input shaft bearing. it supports the main shaft and set the distance on your shift forks. the input shaft is in constant contact with the counter gear so reverse would work no matter what. so in the end your trans is hurt.
are you 100% thats whats going on? I will replace it right now if thats whats going on. And what would that actual part be called because I type that part in and I cant find it anywhere? The input shaft bearing is inside the transmission right?

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Old November 12th, 2008, 05:15 PM   #4
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All Rangers seem to have issues around that area, the slave cylinder is a very common problem, as is the pilot bearing.

Fixing any of it involves pulling the engine or trans, whichever ends up being easier.
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So it can be them 3 things, So basically if its the input shaft bearing, best bet is to replace transmission, and if its them other things to replace clutch?
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Yes, for the input shaft bearing, just replace the tranny.

The clutch may be fine, depending on inspection. The throw out bearing and slave cylinder I think are one thing (I could be wrong). A bad pilot bearing will cause the shaft to drag, common symptom being hard to shift and only going into reverse.

Normally if it's the slave/throw out bearing, there is pedal issues along with shifting issues. it may in fact be the input shaft bearing.

Out of curiosity, is there alot of oily buildup around the top of the transmission? Specifically where the shift rail plugs would be? Alooot of people have issues with those leaking, though mine never have leaked a drop over the last 11 years/200,000 miles *shrugs. Some cases have involved transmissions actually dying from lack of oil, I'm not quite sure how they let that much leak out with never checking on it, but it can happen I guess.
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I did manual trans for Rampy's in A2 for 11 years. yes its toast.
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Yes, for the input shaft bearing, just replace the tranny.

The clutch may be fine, depending on inspection. The throw out bearing and slave cylinder I think are one thing (I could be wrong). A bad pilot bearing will cause the shaft to drag, common symptom being hard to shift and only going into reverse.

Normally if it's the slave/throw out bearing, there is pedal issues along with shifting issues. it may in fact be the input shaft bearing.

Out of curiosity, is there alot of oily buildup around the top of the transmission? Specifically where the shift rail plugs would be? Alooot of people have issues with those leaking, though mine never have leaked a drop over the last 11 years/200,000 miles *shrugs. Some cases have involved transmissions actually dying from lack of oil, I'm not quite sure how they let that much leak out with never checking on it, but it can happen I guess.
I have no idea, I would have to look at it a chance I get it. Wait till its not a rainy day. But yeah the grinding noise is getting progessively worse. This is just gonna burn my transmission up right? Nothing else because if its effecting the clutch im gonna stop driving it right now.
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if its as bad as you say it won't effect the clutch more then the trans its self. its falling apart inside thats a given. I suggest you check out junkyards and see if you can find a good one.
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I've actually been driving the truck before i've posted the truck and its been doing it for about 3 months now. I am a light shifter anyone have a prediction how long this is gonna last before it finally dies on me? I drive this truck everyday.
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