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Old November 6th, 2008, 08:47 AM   #21
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Nah, it's pretty easy. Not knowing the kids age you should discipline him for using disrespectful language in front of his peers, and making a comment at an innaproppriate time.

Having an opinion is fine, its how you present it.
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It's what I like to call "movie funny." In a movie, it's funny and really doesn't get anyone in trouble. If done in real life, it can get you in a lot of trouble.
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Being PC is a whole boatload different than asking a kid to act properly and respectfully in school.

Asking your kid to be PC would be asking him to use the term "testicles" and not "balls".

Asking for your kid to keep his opinion to himself, behave and respect the fact that he's in school and should be learning something is just asking for good manners. The mixed message of discipline and a high-five for the same action... ugh.

And the comment about not being president yet... if McCain won and a democrat was making comments like this, do you SERIOUSLY think you'd point out that "he's not president yet" and let it go??? Give me a fucking break.
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Being PC is a whole boatload different than asking a kid to act properly and respectfully in school.

Asking your kid to be PC would be asking him to use the term "testicles" and not "balls".

Asking for your kid to keep his opinion to himself, behave and respect the fact that he's in school and should be learning something is just asking for good manners. The mixed message of discipline and a high-five for the same action... ugh.

And the comment about not being president yet... if McCain won and a democrat was making comments like this, do you SERIOUSLY think you'd point out that "he's not president yet" and let it go??? Give me a fucking break.

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Everyone is entitled to their opinions, whether replete with wisdom or mired in ignorance, but there is a time and place to voice those opinions and a time to hold your tongue. What if your 13 year old son came home from school and told you that McCain could suck his balls? Would that give you a nice warm fuzzy feeling? After all, he is just voicing his opinion.
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Old November 6th, 2008, 10:13 AM   #25
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Being PC is a whole boatload different than asking a kid to act properly and respectfully in school.

Asking your kid to be PC would be asking him to use the term "testicles" and not "balls".

Asking for your kid to keep his opinion to himself, behave and respect the fact that he's in school and should be learning something is just asking for good manners. The mixed message of discipline and a high-five for the same action... ugh.

And the comment about not being president yet... if McCain won and a democrat was making comments like this, do you SERIOUSLY think you'd point out that "he's not president yet" and let it go??? Give me a fucking break.
what he said.

Whenever I see a bunch of kids acting like pissheads and being inpolite at the mall, or anywhere for that matter, I always wonder what kind of parents these damn no-good cocky sobs have...now I know. Rediculous...If and when my little girl brings home someone like your son, I will kick his cocky ass to the curb and lock up my daughter until she's 20.

I weep for the future, because of their present.


but thats just my opinion...
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Old November 6th, 2008, 10:14 AM   #26
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maybe the teacher should not have brought up politic's in a spanish class?
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Old November 6th, 2008, 10:17 AM   #27
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maybe the teacher should not have brought up politic's in a spanish class?
they should punish her for bad teaching practices.
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Old November 6th, 2008, 10:24 AM   #28
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they should punish her for bad teaching practices.
Wait, isn't blaming someone else a thing???!!!

Here again, if McCain won and the teacher brought that up in the same way, would you be saying this? Is your problem that they brought up the new president or that they brought up Obama? Same question to Miffy.
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Wait, isn't blaming someone else a thing???!!!

Here again, if McCain won and the teacher brought that up in the same way, would you be saying this? Is your problem that they brought up the new president or that they brought up Obama?
My problem is politics don't belong in the class room. I don't know how many times in high school i walked out of class because some hippie teacher was trying to brain wash me. I don't care she brought up president obama. i care she is poisoning the mind of Americas youth with her political agenda teach spanish not rowe vs wade or the war in iraq.
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My problem is politics don't belong in the class room. I don't know how many times in high school i walked out of class because some hippie teacher was trying to brain wash me. I don't care she brought up president obama. i care she is poisoning the mind of Americas youth with her political agenda teach spanish not rowe vs wade or the war in iraq.
From the first post, the teacher "...made a comment about Obama's victory..." and you extrapolate that to rowe vs wade and the war in Iraq?? For all you know the comment wasn't even in support of Obama. It could have been "I don't want to hear about Obama's victory" for all you know!

It's bullshit assumptions and trying to read between the lines exactly like this that make sane political discussions damn near impossible.
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From the first post, the teacher "...made a comment about Obama's victory..." and you extrapolate that to rowe vs wade and the war in Iraq?? For all you know the comment wasn't even in support of Obama. It could have been "I don't want to hear about Obama's victory" for all you know!

It's bullshit assumptions and trying to read between the lines exactly like this that make sane political discussions damn near impossible.
she commented on a political issue in spanish class how is she not wrong. she should of said something like this onu dos tres. instead of barrack won the presidency. imo her teach certificate should be revoked. the only class that should be allowed to comment on the election is current events or history class.
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she commented on a political issue in spanish class how is she not wrong. she should of said something like this onu dos tres. instead of barrack won the presidency. imo her teach certificate should be revoked. the only class that should be allowed to comment on the election is current events or history class.
Any teacher that mentions a current event should be removed. You're onto something!

That's just what this country needs in it's teachers: complete unwavering focus on nothing other than the subject at hand; no thought, consideration or comment at all about the things their students are going through in their daily lives outside of their classroom; no attempts whatsoever to relate to their students.

That sounds like a recipe to fix our schools. We have too many teachers as it is, let's get rid of ones that mention anything outside of class.

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Any teacher that mentions a current event should be removed. You're onto something!

That's just what this country needs in it's teachers: complete unwavering focus on nothing other than the subject at hand; no thought, consideration or comment at all about the things their students are going through in their daily lives outside of their classroom; no attempts whatsoever to relate to their students.

That sounds like a recipe to fix our schools. We have too many teachers as it is, let's get rid of ones that mention anything outside of class.

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let there parents take care of that there teachers they should teach not voice there oppinions. and fyi my moms a special ed teacher and they tell them in school not to bring in religion politics
or any other controversial issue. now some classes speech or debate or history current events those classes will always ave contravursial issues. But english teach should teach english not polotics.
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Old November 6th, 2008, 10:59 AM   #34
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thats funny shit lol but i had a sub. in my class today and he i said he was the anti-christ and he asked my y cuz i got an email about it and i said something about muslim desent (he was swarn into sen. with muslim book) and he said yah he was but he is not a muslim and we had a big argument over pol. and i got pissed and have to take a test in the same class after it so i didn't answer half of it
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in most situations teachers have a captive audience that cant disagree with them or they will be punished. and typically a teach that teaches politics in there class are unable to hold a debate with an adult so they confuse and diminish a students demener and willingness to learn because they are incapable of holding a debate with a coulege.
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let there parents take care of that there teachers they should teach not voice there oppinions.
I agree in general about mentioning either politics or religion in a class not based on those topics, but an election (regardless of outcome) is the most major event for the nation as a whole IMHO and I see no problem at all "making a comment" about it. Again, you're talking as if the teacher went off on some 15 minute speech about it (and you don't know if "the comment" was for or against him or if it was of any real substance at all)

We'll have to agree to disagree on this because I think teachers need to do just about anything they can think of to relate to students nowadays (with the limits I mentioned above of course). And mentioning a major event like the election would fit that category.

Actually, it would have been a cool idea to work into the class to have kids make comments in Spanish about what they thought of the election. That's the kind of teaching that gets kids to respond IMHO.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinions, whether replete with wisdom or mired in ignorance, but there is a time and place to voice those opinions and a time to hold your tongue. What if your 13 year old son came home from school and told you that McCain could suck his balls? Would that give you a nice warm fuzzy feeling? After all, he is just voicing his opinion.
McCain's mouth is probably a bit dry so I would point out the error in his argument.

Damn, you guys are serious.

1) Obama is not President yet. Even if he were you can be as disrespectful as you want so long as you don't make a threat. Hell, I don't think Hillary calling Bush the "Lamest of Lame Ducks" last week all that respectful.

2) I told him last night that I am glad he has an opinion but that we need to work on his verbal communication with the intent to persuade others to see his point of view, not offend them. He did not get a high five, but some advice on how to do a better job ripping Obama next time.
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in most situations teachers have a captive audience that cant disagree with them or they will be punished. and typically a teach that teaches politics in there class are unable to hold a debate with an adult so they confuse and diminish a students demener and willingness to learn because they are incapable of holding a debate with a coulege.
Again, you're assumnig the teacher is launching into some long speech (apparently you think that students can't respond as in a discussion, which certainly wasn't the case for me or my classmates when I was in school).

I agree with you IF you assume their spouting off endlessly in a preaching fashion. Making comments about things that the students are dealing with outside of the context of the class or engaging them in a short discussion of current events can't be a bad thing IMHO.

You should hope that your kid participates and then comes home and continues the discussion with you, that would be the ultimate for me!
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what he said.

Whenever I see a bunch of kids acting like pissheads and being inpolite at the mall, or anywhere for that matter, I always wonder what kind of parents these damn no-good cocky sobs have...now I know. Rediculous...If and when my little girl brings home someone like your son, I will kick his cocky ass to the curb and lock up my daughter until she's 20.

I weep for the future, because of their present.


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UR an idiot. Kids are kids. If you beat one up you are going to jail, not them. Why don't you grow up?

BTW, come to the M & G in December. I'd like to have a "talk" with you about threatening my kid.
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McCain's mouth is probably a bit dry so I would point out the error in his argument.

Damn, you guys are serious.

1) Obama is not President yet. Even if he were you can be as disrespectful as you want so long as you don't make a threat. Hell, I don't think Hillary calling Bush the "Lamest of Lame Ducks" last week all that respectful.

2) I told him last night that I am glad he has an opinion but that we need to work on his verbal communication with the intent to persuade others to see his point of view, not offend them. He did not get a high five, but some advice on how to do a better job ripping Obama next time.
1) Agree completely with the comment about Hillary's comment not being respectful. I disagree with the fact about being as disrespectful as you want. I think Bush should have been treated with more respect as president though I disagreed with most things he tried to do.

2) the high five was your comment, I applaud you for the discipline and I have no problem with his or your opinions.

As for the serious comment, some of what's being said on this forum is beyond scary IMHO even as jokes, so yeah, you're right.

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