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Old October 31st, 2008, 10:47 AM   #1
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What if John McCain were a former president of the Harvard Law Review?
What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?

What if McCain were still married to the first woman he said 'I do' to?
What if Obama were the candidate who left his first wife after she no longer measured up to his standards?

What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?

What if Michelle Obama were a wife who not only became addicted to pain killers, but acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?

What if McCain were a charismatic, eloquent speaker?
What if Obama were a member of the Keating-5?

Educational Background:

Obama:
Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

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McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899

Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism
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Old October 31st, 2008, 10:52 AM   #2
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I thought you were going to compare all of the candidates...

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Old October 31st, 2008, 11:00 AM   #3
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what if obama was a socialist. oh wait he already is.
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Old October 31st, 2008, 11:08 AM   #4
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what if Obama had some experience.
what if McCain was inexperienced.
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Old October 31st, 2008, 11:37 AM   #5
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And the wipping boy George Bush, where did he go to school?

Oh yea..............
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United States Naval Academy
This one trumps all.
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Old October 31st, 2008, 12:01 PM   #7
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An academic pedigree doesn't make you a good leader. This thread is pointless.
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Old October 31st, 2008, 12:14 PM   #8
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What if nobama didnt have 200 million dollars of campain monies that he couldnt explain?
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Old October 31st, 2008, 12:27 PM   #9
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What if nobama didnt have 200 million dollars of campain monies that he couldnt explain?
dude you are not allowed to question the Führer !!!!!
it's magic money come from more idiots.
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what if obama was a socialist. oh wait he already is.


Senator John McCain disagrees with you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2ZGnM2oku8

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KING: You don't believe Barack Obama is a socialist, do you?

MCCAIN: No. But, I do believe -- I do believe that he's been in the far left of American politics. He has stated time after time that he believes in "spreading the wealth around." He's talked about courts that would redistribute the wealth.


He has a record of voting against tax cuts and for tax increases. And I don't think there's any doubt that he would increase spending and he would, sooner or later, we would be increasing taxes. There is no doubt in my mind that that's what his record -- 94 times he voted to cut taxes -- against tax cuts and for tax increases. He voted for -- and that's what matters. Not rhetoric. To raise taxes on individuals making $42,000 a year.


KING: Concerning spreading the wealth, isn't the graduated income tax spreading the wealth? If you and I paid more so that Jimmy can get some for him, or pay for a welfare recipient, that's spreading the wealth.


MCCAIN: Well, that's spreading the wealth in the respect that we do have a graduated income tax. That's a far cry from taking from one group of Americans and giving to another. I mean, that's tically different.


Sen. Obama clearly has talked about for years, redistributive policies. And that's not the way we create wealth in America. That's not the way we grow our economy. That's not the way we create jobs.




And when small business people see that half of their income, half of the income of small businesses is going to be taxed by Sen, Obama, then they're very upset with it.


KING: He says, it's only the personal income tax. If you run a store, if you make $250,000 or more, as a personal income, not a business income, that's where he's (INAUDIBLE).


MCCAIN: And that's where his folks just reduced it to $200,000. And then Sen. Biden yesterday said $150,000. And the fact is that if Joe the Plumber is able to buy the business that he works in, the guy that he buys it from is going to see an increase in capital gains taxes. They're going to see an increase in payroll taxes. They're going to see -- if he reaches a certain level, an increase in his income taxes. And that's what got people concerned. That's what's got Joe the Plumber upset. He wants to redistribute the money.


KING: Doesn't taxes pay for services?


MCCAIN: Taxes pay for services.


KING: (INAUDIBLE) taxes.


MCCAIN: But, do we want -- taxes pay to keep our government secure. To help those who can't help themselves. And other functions of government, which, by the way, expanded by some 40 percent in the last eight years and gave us a $10 trillion debt --


KING: Under Bush.


MCCAIN: And to the last two years, under Democrat majorities in the House and Senate.


But, that's the job of government. But it is not the job of government that I believe in, that would take a group of Americans who have some money and say, we're taking your money, and we're giving it to others. This 95 percent tax cut he's talking about for 95 percent of Americans -- 40 percent of Americans pay no income tax. So he is just going to give them some money. Where is he going to get it? He is increasing taxes for other groups of Americans. That's his plan.


KING: What are you going to do?


MCCAIN: I'm going to keep taxes low. I'm going to ...


KING: Where they are?


MCCAIN: Sure. Absolutely
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Old October 31st, 2008, 02:11 PM   #11
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An academic pedigree doesn't make you a good leader. This thread is pointless.
especially a law degree. I for one am sick and tired of lawyers.

Exceedingly rare is the lawyer that actually serves a purpose other than their own...
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Old October 31st, 2008, 02:11 PM   #12
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What if John McCain was in favor of redistributing wealth?
What if Barak Obama was against earmarks?

Now of the stuff that the OP brought up matters to me.
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Ah yes, you have proven my point splendidly.

1) If Obama had never gone to school you would call him uneducated and unfit to lead.
2) If Obama had a divorce or was a baby daddy you would say "Typical black male", unfit to lead.
3) If Obama graduated in the lower 2% of his class you would call him a slacker and say he is unfit to lead.
4) If McCain was a lawyer, you would say "He knows the law and will uphold it" If Obama is a lawyer "I dont trust lawyers, he is no good"
5) If Obamas wife was a drug addict, you would be all over it, saying she is unfit to be first lady, etc etc. Never mind both Cindy AND Rush are addicts and broke the law during their addictions.

My point here are the double standards that are used against Obama and for McCain. Obama is clearly perfectly capable of leading and learning. He did well in school, something McCain did not. He came from a broken home, therefore he understands the needs of those in that situation, McCain is so rich he cannot determine how many houses he owns.

And you wonder why the party is crippled and losing political power. Look at your candidates and role models without your blinders on.
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Old October 31st, 2008, 03:18 PM   #14
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An academic pedigree doesn't make you a good leader. This thread is pointless.
Why does it not help you be a good leader?
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Old October 31st, 2008, 03:35 PM   #15
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Ah yes, you have proven my point splendidly.

1) If Obama had never gone to school you would call him uneducated and unfit to lead.
2) If Obama had a divorce or was a baby daddy you would say "Typical black male", unfit to lead.
3) If Obama graduated in the lower 2% of his class you would call him a slacker and say he is unfit to lead.
4) If McCain was a lawyer, you would say "He knows the law and will uphold it" If Obama is a lawyer "I dont trust lawyers, he is no good"
5) If Obamas wife was a drug addict, you would be all over it, saying she is unfit to be first lady, etc etc. Never mind both Cindy AND Rush are addicts and broke the law during their addictions.

My point here are the double standards that are used against Obama and for McCain. Obama is clearly perfectly capable of leading and learning. He did well in school, something McCain did not. He came from a broken home, therefore he understands the needs of those in that situation, McCain is so rich he cannot determine how many houses he owns.

And you wonder why the party is crippled and losing political power. Look at your candidates and role models without your blinders on.
John McCain is an american who has served and sacrificed for this country

Obama is not.
Obama does not like america
Obama does not like free market
Obama is a socialist
Obama has current as 2003 ties with ayers
Obama feels the constitution is flawed
Obama's Wife is not proud of america
Obama's Wife has denounced america
Obama took his family to an anti american, racist, anti semitic church for 20 years
Obama is for BIG government
Obama is anti gun
Obama is anti Voting
Obama is spending ungodly amounts of money on his campaign, what do you think he is going to do when he gets into office
Obama is a cock sucking attention whore who is bad for america
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Why does it not help you be a good leader?
It helps a little, but not much. Leadership depends more on charisma and charm. The people that know a ton and are well educated, but can't schmooze almost never make it to the top. Great schmoozers will make it to very lofty heights with very little understanding of the facts they should know.
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Myself, I would rather have a graduate from the Naval Academy as commander in Chief than a lawyer.

A BA in Political Science doesn't impress me as it should. Is Sen. Obama educated and qualified? Yes. Is Sen. McCain, I also think yes. You have to go with what you feel is right.

Only thing I say is make sure to vote. Those that don't vote shouldn't whine.

I voted absentee since I will be in surgery on Tuesday so I am set.
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John McCain is an american who has served and sacrificed for this country

Obama is not. Kerry was and Bush wasnt, you still voted Bush
Obama does not like america your opinion, not fact
Obama does not like free marketyour opinion not fact
Obama is a socialistyour opinion not fact
Obama has current as 2003 ties with ayershttp://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/he_lied_about_bill_ayers.html
Obama feels the constitution is flawedyour opinion not fact
Obama's Wife is not proud of americayour opinion not fact
Obama's Wife has denounced americashow me the reference for this if it is true
Obama took his family to an anti american, racist, anti semitic church for 20 yearsill give you that one, i dont like that reverend either
Obama is for BIG governmentorly? seems to me the are also for big government
Obama is anti gunquite possibly
Obama is anti Votingyour opinion not fact
Obama is spending ungodly amounts of money on his campaign, what do you think he is going to do when he gets into officeyour opinion, not fact
Obama is a cock sucking attention whore who is bad for americayour opinion, not fact
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It helps a little, but not much. Leadership depends more on charisma and charm. The people that know a ton and are well educated, but can't schmooze almost never make it to the top. Great schmoozers will make it to very lofty heights with very little understanding of the facts they should know.
so if you are educated and charismatic, that is good?
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wisdumb go down and read

http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm

do google search sometime.

oh wait, I forgot you need to wait until the government does it for you. sorry.
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