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Old October 31st, 2008, 11:16 AM   #41
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Old October 31st, 2008, 11:18 AM   #43
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I didn't know Leanz was blown out?

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Old October 31st, 2008, 11:23 AM   #44
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what kinda wheel do they do on this event? is it tight narrow trails or open stuff for a big full size truck?
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Old October 31st, 2008, 11:25 AM   #45
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what kinda wheel do they do on this event? is it tight narrow trails or open stuff for a big full size truck?
My H1 made it through the pre run without any dents last year, truck should be no prob
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Old October 31st, 2008, 11:28 AM   #46
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It's West Branch.

There's some tight, some open, hills and yes, a full size should be okay.

Unless you're talking F250 Diesel w/ 50psi in the tires .. then you might have a problem. (Ask me how I know)
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what kinda wheel do they do on this event? is it tight narrow trails or open stuff for a big full size truck?
It depends on the weather.

Last year a couple groups went out friday night and saturday night to do some trails. There was a fresh 15" of snow, so even the "easy" trails were tougher then normal.

SoFO pulls permits to do hill climbs that are normally illegal, so there is a lot more to do then normal.

Last year there were groups broken down into different levels, so there is something for everybody.
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It's West Branch.

There's some tight, some open, hills and yes, a full size should be okay.

Unless you're talking F250 Diesel w/ 50psi in the tires .. then you might have a problem. (Ask me how I know)
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are the gl4wd requirements relaxed or not? i have no e-brake and they dont allow pinion brakes.

also must you be a gl4wd member?
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what are the saftey requirements ? where do I find them ??
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what are the saftey requirements ? where do I find them ??
http://www.glfwda.org/forms/Safety_C...vised_3_06.pdf
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are the gl4wd requirements relaxed or not? i have no e-brake and they dont allow pinion brakes.

also must you be a gl4wd member?
You never know, I might climb in your Jeep during inspections and pull the ebrake.

But I will probably be more concerned with your tow points, and the rest of your recovery gear.
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I don't have an e-brake, but I've been on numerous glfwda runs.
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Old October 31st, 2008, 01:40 PM   #54
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are the gl4wd requirements relaxed or not? i have no e-brake and they dont allow pinion brakes.

also must you be a gl4wd member?
Yes, you MUST be a GLFWDA member.

RE the requirements................... ahem............. The rules are guidelines of what is deemed safe. There will not be a vehicle safety inspection.

I will be one of the trail leaders for the event. Here's what I do; I will do a quick visual of your vehicle & point out any OBVIOUS issues. IE broken tail light that might get us pulled over, bulging tire, etc. I am not going to crawl under your vehicle to do a safety inspection for a couple of reasons. First, I am not a certified mechanic and I don't have the credentials to determine if your brakes are functional, your roll bar is adequate, etc. Second, I EXPECT you to be a man of your word that your vehicle is up to snuff.

Now, where I do have an issue is with tow points. If you don't have visually quality tow points, you're not going on my run.......... PERIOD. If you have a trailer hitch that's half falling off and I know we are going someplace where you will be using it, I'll tell you no. Sorry. Safe recovery should have no grey areas.

In addition, I will set the standards for those on my run. In other words, again, if we are going somplace that I know will require a certain tire size or lockers, I insist on it. Why? Sure, you may say "I want to try that" and you may even make the obstacle with only one locker. The flip side is, if you become the boat anchor for the group, is that fair to the other folks on the run?

Hope this helps.

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In addition, I will set the standards for those on my run. In other words, again, if we are going somplace that I know will require a certain tire size or lockers, I insist on it. Why? Sure, you may say "I want to try that" and you may even make the obstacle with only one locker. The flip side is, if you become the boat anchor for the group, is that fair to the other folks on the run?



Nicely put, I may borrow that when I lead trails.....

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Yes, you MUST be a GLFWDA member.

RE the requirements................... ahem............. The rules are guidelines of what is deemed safe. There will not be a vehicle safety inspection.

I will be one of the trail leaders for the event. Here's what I do; I will do a quick visual of your vehicle & point out any OBVIOUS issues. IE broken tail light that might get us pulled over, bulging tire, etc. I am not going to crawl under your vehicle to do a safety inspection for a couple of reasons. First, I am not a certified mechanic and I don't have the credentials to determine if your brakes are functional, your roll bar is adequate, etc. Second, I EXPECT you to be a man of your word that your vehicle is up to snuff.

Now, where I do have an issue is with tow points. If you don't have visually quality tow points, you're not going on my run.......... PERIOD. If you have a trailer hitch that's half falling off and I know we are going someplace where you will be using it, I'll tell you no. Sorry. Safe recovery should have no grey areas.

In addition, I will set the standards for those on my run. In other words, again, if we are going somplace that I know will require a certain tire size or lockers, I insist on it. Why? Sure, you may say "I want to try that" and you may even make the obstacle with only one locker. The flip side is, if you become the boat anchor for the group, is that fair to the other folks on the run?

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Yes, you MUST be a GLFWDA member.

RE the requirements................... ahem............. The rules are guidelines of what is deemed safe. There will not be a vehicle safety inspection.

I will be one of the trail leaders for the event. Here's what I do; I will do a quick visual of your vehicle & point out any OBVIOUS issues. IE broken tail light that might get us pulled over, bulging tire, etc. I am not going to crawl under your vehicle to do a safety inspection for a couple of reasons. First, I am not a certified mechanic and I don't have the credentials to determine if your brakes are functional, your roll bar is adequate, etc. Second, I EXPECT you to be a man of your word that your vehicle is up to snuff.

Now, where I do have an issue is with tow points. If you don't have visually quality tow points, you're not going on my run.......... PERIOD. If you have a trailer hitch that's half falling off and I know we are going someplace where you will be using it, I'll tell you no. Sorry. Safe recovery should have no grey areas.

In addition, I will set the standards for those on my run. In other words, again, if we are going somplace that I know will require a certain tire size or lockers, I insist on it. Why? Sure, you may say "I want to try that" and you may even make the obstacle with only one locker. The flip side is, if you become the boat anchor for the group, is that fair to the other folks on the run?

Hope this helps.

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Jim's serious about tow points. I remember a few times Mr. boat anchor checked our tow points by having us tow him back to his trailer
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I am a certified mechanic and I will be crawling under EVERY vehicle, with pockets full of paper clips and zip ties.
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