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Old October 29th, 2008, 08:31 AM   #21
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do you have cataracts? or is your face shoved so far up obama's ass you cannot see the light.

Clinton=major military cuts
Clinton=makes the CIA a bunch of liberal pussies who cannot torture enemies
Clinton=too busy fucking fat interns
Clinton=giving his dyke wife $1.5 billion for healthcare reform that never happened

when bush was elected it wasn't long until 9/11 happened. having to organize a hugely depleted military before any new buildup could happen under his administration led him to many problems handed to him by your ass pal clinton.

you are still the most angry person I have ever seen/read/met anywhere.

Bush increased military spending by how much while in office? When did we invade Iraq? 2003? Cant buy body armor in 2 years time?
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Old October 29th, 2008, 08:32 AM   #22
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And, Roosevelt believed that every American had a right to a decent home, so in 1977 Congress passed the Community Reinvestment Act, a federal program that basically forced banks to make home loans to people who could not qualify for a loan nor meet their payments. This has resulted in the current crisis within our mortgage industry and financial markets and has America on the brink of another Great Depression.
Wow, FDR had more pull than I thought if he was able to get Congress to pass a housing law 32 years after his death!
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Where do you get your facts from?

here are the senatorial stats for the last 8 years:

I clearly avoided referencing political/party affiliation of the members of congress.

Look at the personalities of some of the Speakers of the House, as well as the Minority/Majority leaders. Look at how often those asshats on capitol hill had their own investigative committees hold hearings on all sorts of bullshit that led to nothing. From Enron, to Steroids in Major League Baseball.

Point is, the makeup of congress, regardless of political party affiliation was not a group of people that were looking to build accords, and/or get work done. They were, and are a bunch of blame-stormers and finger pointers...
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I clearly avoided referencing political/party affiliation of the members of congress.

Look at the personalities of some of the Speakers of the House, as well as the Minority/Majority leaders. Look at how often those asshats on capitol hill had their own investigative committees hold hearings on all sorts of bullshit that led to nothing. From Enron, to Steroids in Major League Baseball.

Point is, the makeup of congress, regardless of political party affiliation was not a group of people that were looking to build accords, and/or get work done. They were, and are a bunch of blame-stormers and finger pointers...
You certainly have to renege your previous statement regarding Democrats since the Dems did not control congress. It was EVERYONE in congress who helped pass poor Bush policies, just happened to be a majority, which is why they are now the minority.
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You certainly have to renege your previous statement regarding Democrats since the Dems did not control congress. It was EVERYONE in congress who helped pass poor Bush policies, just happened to be a majority, which is why they are now the minority.
going back to read it. I don't recall stating they controlled congress. Only that the pork addicted Dems would have a rally if Bush attempted to heed the conservative call.

I did state that Bush (or any president) would have had a tough time working with Congress given the makeup of Congress during the past two terms... (again, not talking party affiliation)

edit. bleh, first sentence in the earlier post. I'm tired. sue me. What I probably should have stated rather than "controlled congress" is typically had a majority in. (what you refer to as a split)

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going back to read it. I don't recall stating they controlled congress. Only that the pork addicted Dems would have a rally if Bush attempted to heed the conservative call.

I did state that Bush (or any president) would have had a tough time working with Congress given the makeup of Congress during the past two terms... (again, not talking party affiliation)

edit. bleh, first sentence in the earlier post. I'm tired. sue me.

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going back to read it. I don't recall stating they controlled congress. Only that the pork addicted Dems would have a rally if Bush attempted to heed the conservative call.

I did state that Bush (or any president) would have had a tough time working with Congress given the makeup of Congress during the past two terms... (again, not talking party affiliation)

edit. bleh, first sentence in the earlier post. I'm tired. sue me. What I probably should have stated rather than "controlled congress" is typically had a majority in. (what you refer to as a split)
Split was only in the senate. had the majority in teh house of reps.
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Old October 29th, 2008, 08:48 AM   #28
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do you have cataracts? or is your face shoved so far up obama's ass you cannot see the light.

Clinton=major military cuts
Clinton=makes the CIA a bunch of liberal pussies who cannot torture enemies
Clinton=too busy fucking fat interns
Clinton=giving his dyke wife $1.5 billion for healthcare reform that never happened

when bush was elected it wasn't long until 9/11 happened. having to organize a hugely depleted military before any new buildup could happen under his administration led him to many problems handed to him by your ass pal clinton.
It didn't take long for a repug to state his support of torture did it?
Look how Bin Laden duped Bush into his spending spree much like Russia and
look at the mess we're in.

No matter who is elected, the Pentagon rules and will continue spending us into oblivion. Eisenhower was right
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Old October 29th, 2008, 08:51 AM   #29
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you are still the most angry person I have ever seen/read/met anywhere.

Bush increased military spending by how much while in office? When did we invade Iraq? 2003? Cant buy body armor in 2 years time?
please. come up with another answer. every time you hear something that you don't want to hear you call me angry.

you obviously have no idea what america is about. you do want the guberment to run your life though.
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listen. with clinton he cut the military to shit. it ended up that my wife and I had to purchase her military equipment with money out of our own pocket for her training and deployments. THAT'S RIGHT PAID OUT OF OUR OWN POCKET for her boots, fatigues, shirts, socks, etc. under clinton. we would then have to submit the receipts and be re-imbursed a portion of what we spent some months later.

the problem is that the idiots of this country can only see and think about what affects them right here, right now. they don't think about down the line, they want to know about what they are getting now, now, now. clinton enjoyed success from reagan policies. talk with anyone who started or maintained a business during the carter/reagan timeframe. the reduction of taxes by Ron allowed business to grow. it took a while but worked. clinton just enjoyed the fruits of it and took credit for it. the idiots of this land simply don't understand as it didn't happen yesterday.

I have always thought it funny how the compare every conflict to vietnam. which a democrat started. they all seem to forget that fact.a because it makes them look bad.

You cannot change the attitude of america. the idiocy of the population is bringing it's downfall. who will they blame. certainly not themselves. who will the blame when they start to pass and severely diminish your rights and people get pissed off? not themselves.
Very well put!!!
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How is this different than our current troops (under GWB) having to buy their own body armor?
I know that for a fact that this is not accurate!!! Our military is being provided with everything you can imagine to protect them as much as possible...
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What do you know? You only buy all the shit for the army.
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It didn't take long for a repug to state his support of torture did it?
Look how Bin Laden duped Bush into his spending spree much like Russia and
look at the mess we're in.

No matter who is elected, the Pentagon rules and will continue spending us into oblivion. Eisenhower was right
We recently spent more money on the bank bailout then we have spent on the entire war on terror... Where is the spending problem??? I'd have to say it on programs and bailouts...
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What do you know? You only buy all the shit for the army.

Quit telling my secrets
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Old October 29th, 2008, 10:18 AM   #35
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It amazes me how quickly people forget about 9/11, the internet bubble of '02 and Hurricane Katrina. Then want to blame the economy on G-dubya.

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It amazes me how quickly people forget about 9/11, the internet bubble of '02 and Hurricane Katrina. Then want to blame the economy on G-dubya.

morons
because people cannot understand anything but the immediate minute they are in.
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Lets get a couple of things straight here

1) 9.11 has nothing to do with WMD in Iraq and the war we are having there. Iraq had no WMD this is a FACT.

2) Internet bubble has nothing to do with the presidency and has never been mentioned.

3) if anything, hurricane Katrina is a net negative for the . Remember "Doing a hell of a good job Brownie"? Bush mishandled that debacle horribly by appointing a unqualified man to head FEMA. One of Bushs old school buddies.
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Bill Clinton is correct!

So the question is, how can say that are tax and spend? Seems to me, the last president we had was tax and save. Lets face it, we are in a crapload of debt as a country, if we keep on electing big government to office, who continue to blow our tax dollars in Iraq while giving tax cuts to the wealthy, our children will have nothing to inherit.
If you weren't a complete idiot I would tell you to go do some research to understand WHY Clinton had a budget surplus. It wasn't because of anything he did. He just happened to be president at the culmination of a huge bull market, record tax revenues, etc... But, you wouldn't understand any of it anyway. You just want to regurgitate what you heard from someone else and claim that the Democrats were responsible.
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Lets get a couple of things straight here

1) 9.11 has nothing to do with WMD in Iraq and the war we are having there. Iraq had no WMD this is a FACT.

2) Internet bubble has nothing to do with the presidency and has never been mentioned.

3) if anything, hurricane Katrina is a net negative for the . Remember "Doing a hell of a good job Brownie"? Bush mishandled that debacle horribly by appointing a unqualified man to head FEMA. One of Bushs old school buddies.

you really are a blind sheep.

the katrina result in New Orleans is not the fault of bush. The Problems of New Orleans started long before with the purely incompetent leadership of the the Mayor of NO and the governor of LA. the problem became sooo huge because of failed plans those two had in place for and emergency situation. Now that the idiocy of those two leaders it is a monsterous federal problem that ultimately gets blamed on a president who really had nothing to do with any of it but the mess cleanup.

you are soooo big government. you feel the government should be responsible for everything. it's the government's fault that LA and NO had poor preparation and execution.
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If you weren't a complete idiot I would tell you to go do some research to understand WHY Clinton had a budget surplus. It wasn't because of anything he did. He just happened to be president at the culmination of a huge bull market, record tax revenues, etc... But, you wouldn't understand any of it anyway. You just want to regurgitate what you heard from someone else and claim that the Democrats were responsible.

YOU apparently cannot read my original post. He SAVED money rather than spending it. Thats the point. You cannot call Dems tax and spend if they are the only people in the last 50 years to have a surplus. Heck, your boy Bushy had a huge bull market and we have record deficits. We didnt have to go to war with Iraq on our own you know
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