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Old September 12th, 2011, 09:19 PM   #681
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Old September 12th, 2011, 09:27 PM   #682
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I went from an 01 cclb with an 8.1 to a 97 ecsb with a 6.5, I'm watching my mileage becaue my fule cost have been cut in half.
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Old September 12th, 2011, 09:37 PM   #683
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The way Ive always seen it is, I can either drive something Im comfortable in, does what I need it to do, and I like that gets shitty mileage.. OR I can drive something Im unsatisfied with just to save $300 or so dollars a year.
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Old September 13th, 2011, 09:17 AM   #684
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The diesel was first on my list too but the cost is too high and doesn't offer the room we have with this. I'm sure the diesel tows better but living within our means is higher on our priority list right now.
Nothing wrong with that at all. I was just pointing out that the diesel 3/4 and 1 tons make the half tons feel like a wj.

When you say room in the suburban are you seating in more than 2 rows? If not I would be willing to bet the crew cab superduty I have has just as much interior seating room, but you do have to make sure when you put your gear in the bed it is protected from the weather, where as the suburban or expedition You can just toss it in the back, definitely something that has to be weighed out when choosing a tow rig.
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Old September 13th, 2011, 09:25 AM   #685
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Why is everyone always so concerned with mileage?...Ive never understood it. Not a single vehicle that I have owned/towed with in the last 8 years ever got better then 11mpg. Usually around 9ish.
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The way Ive always seen it is, I can either drive something Im comfortable in, does what I need it to do, and I like that gets shitty mileage.. OR I can drive something Im unsatisfied with just to save $300 or so dollars a year.
Why are people concerned with mileage?

Quite simple really, it adds up.

Not considering other costs if you are only saving $300 a year by having better mileage than you really are not driving all that much.

My commuter car sees 26,000 miles a year minimum, typically it sees about 36,000 miles a year.

36,000 miles / 15 mpg = 2400 gallons of fuel. @ $4/gallon = $9600
36,000 miles / 28 mpg (my cars average) 1285 @ $4/gallon = $5,142.86
36,000 miles / 27 mpg = $5333.

So on my commuter just 1 mpg is $200 for the year.

My truck in 1 year of ownership has seen 14,000 miles. Before the one year mark is up I already have 2 trips planned that will total another 1500-2000 miles.

15,000 miles @ 17 mpg (about my real world average over ownership thus far) 882 gallons of fuel. Diesel has been $4 the entire time I have owned this truck. $3528 in fuel.

15,000 miles @ 10-12 mpg (my brothers real world honest average in his 6.0 chevy) = 1500 gallons of gasoline @ say 3.69 $5535 in fuel.

I get 10-13 towing. He gets 8-10mpg.

That's $2,000 not 200.

15,000 miles = $300 in oil changes and filters in my diesel.
15,000 miles = $150 in oil changes in a gas truck.

That is why mileage matters.
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Old September 13th, 2011, 09:44 AM   #686
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New to us 2003 Chevy Suburban 1500, 5.3L, 111,000 miles. After towing the Cj with this one time I can't believe we used the WJ this long.
nice ride. I've always liked the Z71 Tahoe/Suburbans. I was looking at Z71 Tahoes, but everyone I found had the bucket seats in the middle or didn't have third row seating. I wanted a 8 passenger one, so we settled for the LT package. I'm impressed with the mileage of the 5.3L on long trips. Two trips up to our camper we got 19.5 one time, and 20.2 the other. That was driving like a grampa tho'. :)
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Old September 13th, 2011, 03:55 PM   #687
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you must drive like an old man, my 8.1 2003 CCSB I got 12 best ever, typical 11, towing the jeep 8 or less. 8.1's don't get that good of mileage ever. awesome motor, I always tell people getting a gasser 6.0 that they should just go with an 8.1 same price to run and tons more power plus the allison behind it.
we have two 8.1L at work, niether gets better than 8 towing and maybe 13 if your lucky not towing.
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Old September 13th, 2011, 05:48 PM   #688
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Nothing wrong with that at all. I was just pointing out that the diesel 3/4 and 1 tons make the half tons feel like a wj.

When you say room in the suburban are you seating in more than 2 rows? If not I would be willing to bet the crew cab superduty I have has just as much interior seating room, but you do have to make sure when you put your gear in the bed it is protected from the weather, where as the suburban or expedition You can just toss it in the back, definitely something that has to be weighed out when choosing a tow rig.

I rock the Gpa capper most of the time .
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Old September 13th, 2011, 06:43 PM   #689
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I do not drive 36k or 15k a year. I put on average about 5k miles in a year. So I guess to me, fuel efficiency just isnt high on the list.
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Old September 13th, 2011, 07:07 PM   #690
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Nothing wrong with that at all. I was just pointing out that the diesel 3/4 and 1 tons make the half tons feel like a wj.

When you say room in the suburban are you seating in more than 2 rows? If not I would be willing to bet the crew cab superduty I have has just as much interior seating room, but you do have to make sure when you put your gear in the bed it is protected from the weather, where as the suburban or expedition You can just toss it in the back, definitely something that has to be weighed out when choosing a tow rig.
We didn't really NEED the third row, but it is nice to have for the oldest child's friends, (we only have 2 kids, 13 and 3). We actually liked the size of the Tahoe more but every one we looked at was trashed or you could literally "smell" them through the computer screen. This is my wife's dd so that kind of ruled out a crew cab truck due to the lack of grocery space. So far so good, couldn't be happier with the vehicle.
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Old September 13th, 2011, 09:15 PM   #691
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We didn't really NEED the third row, but it is nice to have for the oldest child's friends, (we only have 2 kids, 13 and 3). We actually liked the size of the Tahoe more but every one we looked at was trashed or you could literally "smell" them through the computer screen. This is my wife's dd so that kind of ruled out a crew cab truck due to the lack of grocery space. So far so good, couldn't be happier with the vehicle.
be glad you got the Suburban and not a Tahoe, we had a Tahoe for a year until I got sick of it, towing was so-so due to short wheel base. Had the 3rd row but when we used it there was no space behind the back seat. Both those issues are solved with your Suburban, they're great rides for sure!
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Old September 14th, 2011, 07:16 AM   #692
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be glad you got the Suburban and not a Tahoe, we had a Tahoe for a year until I got sick of it, towing was so-so due to short wheel base. Had the 3rd row but when we used it there was no space behind the back seat. Both those issues are solved with your Suburban, they're great rides for sure!
Thats why we have a Suburban a Tahoe...and a Avalanche got all situations covered :)

I agree on towing with the Tahoe not sure I'll ever tow more than a small utility trailer with ours. I might tow the Jeep just to see how it does, but never my camper. I do feel more comfortable with the longer wheelbase of the Suburban and Avalanche.
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Old September 14th, 2011, 08:20 AM   #693
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I rock the Gpa capper most of the time .
my topper is in the swamp behind my house, it annoys me in the summer, but is on the truck during the winter months.

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I do not drive 36k or 15k a year. I put on average about 5k miles in a year. So I guess to me, fuel efficiency just isnt high on the list.
If I drove 5k a year I wouldn't care about mileage either.

Keep in mind, the 36k is my commuting and running errands. The 15k I've put on my truck is weekend/family trips, so mileage is a definite concern of mine. Both towing and running empty. Though if I am towing I am less concerned with mileage.

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We didn't really NEED the third row, but it is nice to have for the oldest child's friends, (we only have 2 kids, 13 and 3). We actually liked the size of the Tahoe more but every one we looked at was trashed or you could literally "smell" them through the computer screen. This is my wife's dd so that kind of ruled out a crew cab truck due to the lack of grocery space. So far so good, couldn't be happier with the vehicle.
you chose the right vehicle for your needs then. Grocery shopping in my truck sucks. In fact, any sort of around town errands other than home depot sucks in that big ass cumbersome thing.
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Old September 14th, 2011, 08:45 AM   #694
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Old September 16th, 2011, 11:09 PM   #695
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Old September 23rd, 2011, 05:17 PM   #696
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Old September 23rd, 2011, 07:03 PM   #697
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Looks nice TJ!

You gonna put a fifth wheel hitch back there?
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Old September 23rd, 2011, 07:11 PM   #698
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Its got a gooseneck ball already, but I have rails for the 5th wheel in the garage that should be going on in the next few weeks I hope
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Old September 23rd, 2011, 08:19 PM   #699
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