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Old August 1st, 2016, 08:10 PM   #1
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So a while back I bought a used trailer. It needed some work, mostly electrical. Its 16 foot 5 inch Channel frame with 3500 lb axles. No spare just the four newish bias plies that came on it.

So far I've fished new wire through the loops in the frame and put new lights on it. I've run 12awg to the brakes, but haven't hooked them up yet because I'm taking my time on each corner washing out the bearings and hubs and replacing wear items as I go.

One thing I need to shit or get off the pot on is this has an odd bolt pattern. 5X5" aka JK bolt pattern. Being most of the trips I'm planning on taking with this trailer are to the UP, I'd rather have 5X4.5 as in a pinch I can buy a bolt on spare at Walmart or Tractor supply along the way, rather than be stranded if I have a multiple tire failure. Initial rim purchase to swap would be minimal as I think I already have a set of rims up north, it would be just brake drums, backing plates, bearings and seals. On the plus side I'd also upgrade to both axles being braking axles as right now only the front is.


I figure if I take the hubs off and sell them, they'll go decently quick for the guys making an expedition trailer for behind their jeep. I just don't know if its worth it to change bolt patterns

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Readily available parts is a good thing to have. If it were me I would swap to a standard pattern. There should be a surplus store near lansing for trailer parts or check with Becks. If you really need to etrailer.com has drums in your desired pattern.
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You don't need different backing plates. All 3500lb axles are 10" brakes. My trailer is 5 on 5. I have a spare mounted to the trailer. It is 9 years old and I've never needed more than one spare. Worse case scenario you buy another tire to mount on your rim you took off trailer. I have thought about this too. But I just can't see spending $250+ just to change bolt pattern when I have yet to be stranded by tire failure.
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My last two car trailers have had the 5x5 bolt pattern. It seems to be the new pattern vs the 5x4.5. I would invest in a spare rather than spending money on changing the bolt pattern. I think I have just over $100 into my spare radial tire on a matching wheel.
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You don't need different backing plates. All 3500lb axles are 10" brakes. My trailer is 5 on 5. I have a spare mounted to the trailer. It is 9 years old and I've never needed more than one spare. Worse case scenario you buy another tire to mount on your rim you took off trailer. I have thought about this too. But I just can't see spending $250+ just to change bolt pattern when I have yet to be stranded by tire failure.
I would if I wanted dual axle braking, but we're arguing formalities. If I was adding a second set of brakes I'd need to buy new drums so I think it would be closer to a wash.

Honestly I think I'm making this out to be a bigger deal than it is. Its $40 for a rim on etrailer, I'll probably keep the bolt pattern and just run it till it breaks.
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Yeah I meant different ones for the different bolt pattern hub. You'll be fine with the 5x5 pattern.
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Drill your hubs for both patterns. Last resort, swap studs.
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Wouldn't it just be easier to have two spares with rims?

I know you wanna be prepared, but what are the odds of needing 3 spares?
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Wouldn't it just be easier to have two spares with rims?

I know you wanna be prepared, but what are the odds of needing 3 spares?
I'm not sure what you're getting at here. I was looking at it from the perspective of I don't currently have a spare, and if I say had two tire blowouts I could swing by a tractor supply, menards, or even a walmart and pick up one already on a rim. I wasn't planning on having two spares, just the ablity to have one quickly if I needed one while traveling.


As it sits right now I'm gonna have to replace all the 30y.o. wheel studs and probably bearings and seals. Out of the two wheels I've cleaned and inspected so far, one of the inner bearings was shot and the race pitted the other was looking pretty old as in it may have been original. I still haven't pulled off two of the hubs to inspect.

Looking at Etrailer as a baseline, 5 studs plus a full bearing kit is $27est and a new fully loaded hub is $25. Looks like I'm putting in an order for a new hub.
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I'm not sure what you're getting at here. I was looking at it from the perspective of I don't currently have a spare, and if I say had two tire blowouts I could swing by a tractor supply, menards, or even a walmart and pick up one already on a rim. I wasn't planning on having two spares, just the ablity to have one quickly if I needed one while traveling.
That's exactly what i'm saying, why wouldn't you have a couple spares, handy on the trailer? One for sure, if you're traveling long distance then you'd be at a loss to not carry a spare, and if you're that worried about a second blowout then keep a second spare. Sure being able to go to menards or tractor supply would be great, but are you going to be around someplace the has a right size tire?

This is just my opinon, but keeping two spares on the trailer would seem the easiest option over replacing all the hubs and wheels on the trailer. Even if one hub needs to be replaced.
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5 on 5 aunt that odd anymore.
Get quality tires, you wont have blow outs. (Goodyear marathons)
Carry a decent spare. 2 if you are tin foil hat paranoid.
Worst case, roadside can bring you a tire and rim in an emergency.
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Ended up buying a spare from Etrailer with a cheap ass bias ply tire for it.

When these start going, I'll probably step up to an LT tire instead they'll be a better all around tire.

So far its handled itself well. My biggest gripe so far is I should have paid the extra $500 for the 10K trailer that was local to me as it could have been a better trailer. But as they say, no one ever said to themselves " man I wish I would have bought the cheaper option".
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