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Old February 19th, 2015, 06:14 PM   #1
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Default **who to buy from??? V nose enclosed vs flat?

Those who had both and towed both. Noticeable difference between flat vs v?

I am aware of the differences with interior, my concern is the added cost of the v worth it? Does it make enough difference cutting the air while towing to justify?

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Old February 19th, 2015, 06:26 PM   #2
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I've never towed a V but I've been told they are more sensitive to cross winds.
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don't you already have an enclosed? I wouldn't want to lose the room of a v front
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Old February 19th, 2015, 08:45 PM   #4
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I do, it's a 18'. I want a bigger one. The buggy fits good enough. But the trailer is to short for my car.
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never towed a flat front, but the v nose has to help a little. the extra height on mine probably more than cancelled out whatever I might have gained from the v-nose. I went with the v-nose because I thought it looked better and it was no extra charge since they build them that way. mine is an MTI

I have heard a rolled top is a little better than a flat top, but again, how much difference can it truly be?

I realized that there are many little things to over-analyze so I just picked a decent brand trailer that I thought looked good and had the options that I truly needed/wanted.

I do wish I did the screwless exterior since it looks nicer, but you have to draw the line somewhere.

make sure you get the extra wide rear door. the extra width is nice insurance. my buggy is 91" wide and I had them do a 95" rear door opening.

mine is 24'. hopefully my calculations will work exactly how I want it to. not too much trailer, but just enough for what I want to do
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Old February 19th, 2015, 09:57 PM   #6
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Never had any issues with my v-nose, and I've had a few windy trips.
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John,
I'm curious what advantage you see with the V. When I bought my enclosed I considered it but couldn't see how to utilize the space as good as an equal length box front.
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Old February 20th, 2015, 06:04 AM   #8
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Aerodynamics is all I am questioning here. I know how the effects of interior space pros and cons will be. Curious on real world expierence.
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I've towed several enclosed trailers now, both V nosed and flat. I didn't pay attention to mileage and the loads inside were greatly different so not a fair comparison. But packing the Vnose sucked enough that I don't think I'll consider one if I go to an enclosed setup. Throw a topper on the truck and it fixes that problem pretty much anyways.
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Flat fronts SUCKKKK!!! My dad had one and the thing was absolutely terrible. Keep in mind this one was a taller one. In sat on top of the wheels. But even my truck which is slightly lifted and has a 6.0 LQ9 had to pull it in 3rd gear doing 70 when it was empty. I'm sure the lower ones with the wheels on the outside of the trailer with fenders are better.
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I have both. And i hate my v nose for every thing except the ease of unloading my snowmobile. I pull both with a 454 powered suburban and get 9mpg regardless what trailer is behind it. With no trailer i get 11mpg . I have considered selling my v nose but haven't yet.
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John,
I'm curious what advantage you see with the V. When I bought my enclosed I considered it but couldn't see how to utilize the space as good as an equal length box front.
I'm using mine for a little extra space for our bunk. it'll give a little more space for the wife and I to stretch out. other than that, I'm sure the aerodynamics are minimal since my v-nose is only 18"

John, if you plan on doing any extra height (which you'll probably need) it'll cancel out an y gains from a v-nose (and gains are probbly minimal at best when comparing one to the other).
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I know you asked for peeps who have towed flat vs V, but here's my 2-cents. I can't see how it'll make much difference. Going from towing jeep on flat trailer weighing 7000lbs I get 8-9mpg. Towing my toyhauler close to 21k it gets 7.5-8mpg. That tells me not much makes a difference in mpg when it comes to weight/aerodynamics once you exceed a certain amount of weight. Mpg doesn't change for me if I drive 65-75mph to make it worth anything, maybe saw 1/2mpg gain at best.
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I really disliked my v nose trailer. I never noticed a fuel savings. Try to utilize the interior space was worthless. Get a flat front with a rolled top.
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I know you asked for peeps who have towed flat vs V, but here's my 2-cents. I can't see how it'll make much difference. Going from towing jeep on flat trailer weighing 7000lbs I get 8-9mpg. Towing my toyhauler close to 21k it gets 7.5-8mpg. That tells me not much makes a difference in mpg when it comes to weight/aerodynamics once you exceed a certain amount of weight. Mpg doesn't change for me if I drive 65-75mph to make it worth anything, maybe saw 1/2mpg gain at best.

this is well said. even though my previous setup was much heavier, it was more aerodynamic. the extra height on mt current will probably cause me to not get much better mileage than I previously did.

I say go for the look you want or jump on the good deal that has the options you truly want.
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I know you asked for peeps who have towed flat vs V, but here's my 2-cents. I can't see how it'll make much difference. Going from towing jeep on flat trailer weighing 7000lbs I get 8-9mpg. Towing my toyhauler close to 21k it gets 7.5-8mpg. That tells me not much makes a difference in mpg when it comes to weight/aerodynamics once you exceed a certain amount of weight. Mpg doesn't change for me if I drive 65-75mph to make it worth anything, maybe saw 1/2mpg gain at best.
^ This. I've heard alot of people say they don't carry water in their fresh water tanks or spare gas, they dump their tanks before heading home, etc to save on fuel costs. In the scope of things, the water in your tank is only a couple percent of your overall weight. For me, it's all about the comfort of enjoying your vacation.
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^ This. I've heard alot of people say they don't carry water in their fresh water tanks or spare gas, they dump their tanks before heading home, etc to save on fuel costs. In the scope of things, the water in your tank is only a couple percent of your overall weight. For me, it's all about the comfort of enjoying your vacation.
Ya, I tried all that BS once and never again. We always travel with water in the tanks so we can use our own shitter.
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Old February 25th, 2015, 03:43 PM   #18
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Who recommends who for purchasing?
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Old February 25th, 2015, 04:15 PM   #19
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Our family had good experience with legend trailers in st. Johns I believe it located?
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I just priced a trailer from msi in Indiana. Price seemed real good, I've found buying a trailer is a pain in the ass overall.

Trailer I priced is a twin to the 20' i have with the logos
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