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Old October 26th, 2008, 08:54 AM   #61
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first of all lets go back to bill clinton, when he came into office the economy was good and just about to bust wide open (i.e. the beginning of subprime lending).
Everyone had jobs that paid too much and had money, it was hard to find someone to hire, there was no one out there.
Looking back on Clinton I think people liked him because nothing detrimental happened to our country at that time (most people dont realize it but we are feeling the effects of his term now).
Everyone hates bush, do you think 10 or 20 years from now the outlook might be different.
when Clinton was in office a lot of government jobs were created (unnecessary overpaid employees) who pays for this? We do as taxpayers.
How about all of the ridiculous permits you have to get to do anything?

Now Obama has somewhat of the same ideas, use taxpayers money to build infrastructure.
He thinks he is fixing the problem, just what we need more government intervention, thats what got us where we are today.
How long will he last in office, I have already heard talks of assassination.
The choices for pres. are same as usual - I will be chosing the lesser of two evils.
I dont really like any of the choices but Im leaning towards mccain because I cant see how anyone can get ahead being taxed to the max.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 08:55 AM   #62
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ok I have my flame suit on so Ill say it. I hope pistols get outlawed in the us just like Canada, I know off topic but tell me one reason you need to carry a pistol?
and if you answer its my right to bear arms thats horseshit.
Besides the facts that Criminals have them there is really no reason to carry IMO
if you are so scared, get one for yourself
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Old October 26th, 2008, 09:10 AM   #63
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if you are so scared, get one for yourself
NO reason to carry, I am NOT afraid the only firearm I own is a Bear compound bow
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Old October 26th, 2008, 09:22 AM   #64
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so are you saying that my sons and I dont have the right to hunt??
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Old October 26th, 2008, 09:31 AM   #65
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so are you saying that my sons and I dont have the right to hunt??
No not at all handguns are just unnecessary IMO hunt with Rifles and Shotguns
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Old October 26th, 2008, 09:50 AM   #66
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No not at all handguns are just unnecessary IMO hunt with Rifles and Shotguns
What about the Second Amendment of the Bill of Rights?
It is not about hunting or self defense.

But your answer is in the previous post, and lies jut north of the border.
Move to Canada....see ya.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 10:11 AM   #67
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Why should we get our pistols taken away? Any way they go about trying to takes guns away is going to end badly. Some will give them up to avoid the penalties. Others will hide them. And then there are the CAMPERS who will sit in their house with millitary trying to get their weapeons away from them but it turns into a standoff till one gives up or dies. (I know a few that would do that) The Homie G Dogg will still have his gun because it is unregistered, the serial # filed off, and probably not in the govt. system any more cuz it's been on the black market for so long.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 10:14 AM   #68
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What about the Second Amendment of the Bill of Rights?
It is not about hunting or self defense.

But your answer is in the previous post, and lies jut north of the border.
Move to Canada....see ya.
It is about self defense. It protects our right to defend ourselves (citizens militia) from hostile governments or even our own government.

I am very capable of defending myself in hand to hand confrontations (backround in combat style martial arts) but I still may consider purchasing a weapon to defend my property and family. I fear that if Obama gets elected there could be some very strange racial tensions developing and some people may get the idea that I owe them something for being white.

I hope I'm just being overconcerned about the whole racial tension thing.

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Old October 26th, 2008, 10:17 AM   #69
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ok I have my flame suit on so Ill say it. I hope pistols get outlawed in the us just like Canada, I know off topic but tell me one reason you need to carry a pistol?
and if you answer its my right to bear arms thats horseshit.
Besides the facts that Criminals have them there is really no reason to carry IMO
because criminals have them is reason enough to carry. you answered your own question.

as long as i have a few it will be very hard to forcibly remove them from me.
you gonna step up and try to round up handguns from average citizens?
i dont think thats a job many people want!

if you like this policy so much move to canada and have a nice life.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 10:49 AM   #70
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as noted....

I have yet to read 1 post of WHY McCain...other than he's not Obama...and then typically there are a majority of posts that do nothing but bash Obama as a communist, racist, terrorist, anti christ, baby killing, going to force muslim religion on all, country hating, death to apple pie candidate.

I have never read and heard so much pure unadulterated hatred for a presidential candidate in all my years.

funny how a parties campaign can reflect and influence it supporters.
Voting for McCain just because he's not Obama is a good enough reason. Just as Obama is saying, vote for me because I'm not Bush/McCain.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 10:50 AM   #71
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To say Obama isn't racist is just silly. He thinks he's black. He said his personal salvation lies in the salvation of all african americans. Do we even need to go back over the quotes from his own books? Something to the effect that he wanted to distance himself from his mother's race.

Sounds like Hitler's sorted childhood.....
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NO reason to carry, I am NOT afraid the only firearm I own is a Bear compound bow
Are you real? You realize a bow is not a firearm, right?
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Old October 26th, 2008, 11:00 AM   #73
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ok I have my flame suit on so Ill say it. I hope pistols get outlawed in the us just like Canada, I know off topic but tell me one reason you need to carry a pistol?
and if you answer its my right to bear arms thats horseshit.
Besides the facts that Criminals have them there is really no reason to carry IMO
i vowed to my self many years ago to never victim of a violent crime and if there legal i will have and if there not i will have one because i do not deserve to be a victim of a violent crime because of the pot smoking hippies
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Old October 26th, 2008, 11:04 AM   #74
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Are you real? You realize a bow is not a firearm, right?
of course I do I said it in my own post I don't even Kill bambi with it.

I'm just not a big gun guy yeah I should buy some in case of Rapture or a coup d'etat, but I'm not worried. Bigbrother hasn't gotten to me yet.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 11:26 AM   #75
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Voting for McCain just because he's not Obama is a good enough reason. Just as Obama is saying, vote for me because I'm not Bush/McCain.
Works perfectly for all low information Bubba voters
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Old October 26th, 2008, 11:45 AM   #76
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ok I have my flame suit on so Ill say it. I hope pistols get outlawed in the us just like Canada, I know off topic but tell me one reason you need to carry a pistol?
and if you answer its my right to bear arms thats horseshit.
Besides the facts that Criminals have them there is really no reason to carry IMO
There doesn't have to be a reason to carry firearms. In our form of government (or at least how it should be), we aren't automatically denied things because there's no reason to allow them. We are denied things ONLY with good reason.

What makes guns bad? People that misuse them become criminals by definition, because there are laws against the actions they take. By outlawing pistols, the law abiding citizens will be the only ones without them.

I'm not a gun nut, I just feel it's fucking stupid logic that we should be denied handguns just because someone thinks there's no good reason to have them.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 12:33 PM   #77
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I'm Not against guns, I just think its rather odd that someone would base who they are voting for over something as trivial as gun control. I don't foresee anyone in this election taking away your guns.

So you have to fill out another form when you buy a gun or wait another day, Big deal, you'll get your gun in in the end.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 01:48 PM   #78
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I'm Not against guns, I just think its rather odd that someone would base who they are voting for over something as trivial as gun control. I don't foresee anyone in this election taking away your guns.

So you have to fill out another form when you buy a gun or wait another day, Big deal, you'll get your gun in in the end.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 02:05 PM   #79
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I'm Not against guns, I just think its rather odd that someone would base who they are voting for over something as trivial as gun control. I don't foresee anyone in this election taking away your guns.

So you have to fill out another form when you buy a gun or wait another day, Big deal, you'll get your gun in in the end.
Look up "incrementalism"
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Works perfectly for all low information Bubba voters

Yeah, Obama voters are sooo informed. You need to hear the man on the street interview. I love the Obama suporters who think Obama made a good choice in Palin for VP Or the ones who are suporting him because he's pro life.
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