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Old October 25th, 2008, 08:36 AM   #41
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I'm not impressed with McCain's campaign but I will be voting for him anyway. I feel Obama is a racist, elitest nutbag that has made it as far as he has riding the "change" wave so many Americans want (but are too stupid to realize the big picture). I think GWB has done more to elect Obaman than anybody else.
I agree with your reasoning . GW turned out to be ineffective but I will say his 1st 4 years were better and I believe the dems taking the majority is the reason the 2nd 4 were worse.


For the life of me I can not understand why the Dems feel Obama is the answer ... As much as I dislike Hillary she is 1000 times more American than Obama could ever be .
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Old October 25th, 2008, 08:53 AM   #42
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i didn't know i guess i should have double check the facts.
Thats an understatement.
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Old October 25th, 2008, 08:55 AM   #43
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I'm not impressed with McCain's campaign but I will be voting for him anyway. I feel Obama is a racist, elitest nutbag that has made it as far as he has riding the "change" wave so many Americans want (but are too stupid to realize the big picture). I think GWB has done more to elect Obaman than anybody else.
WAT?

How can he be racist? He has an african father and a white mother?

Please explain why you think he is elitist. There were some analysts on NPR debating this yesterday. I want to see why you feel that way.
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Old October 25th, 2008, 03:41 PM   #45
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So, being mixed race = Can't possibly be racist, Gotcha. That is the dumbest thing I've read today. I'm not saying Obama is racist just that your logic is retarded.

I once worked with one mixed race girl in particular who used to play the race card ALL the time. As it turned out she was crazy and got fired for flipping out in front of customers.
Who would he be racist toward? Mexicans? Asians? American Indians? He certainly cannot hate white folk as his moms is white and he is visiting his WHITE grandma in Hawaii because she is very ill.

Explain yourself sir.
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Old October 25th, 2008, 05:45 PM   #46
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Old October 25th, 2008, 06:10 PM   #47
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Who COULD he racist towards? Every race.

Note: I never said and I am not saying he is racist, I'm saying your logic is flawed.



Just because someone's mom is Caucasian doesn't mean they can't be racist against Caucasians. In the same manner just because someone's father is African doesn't mean they can't be racist against Africans.

Racism is an ideology/belief. You are linking ideology to race, and stereotyping the ideology of racists by their race. Using your logic an Arab can't be Christan and a Caucasian can't be Muslim.



Using your logic, if KKK members visit sick Africans in Hawaii they can't be racists.
By this logic, the racist would hate him/herself. Is that correct?

Sounds like there may be some confusion here about beleiving in sterotypes and beig a racist.

For instance: It could be said that someone hates white trash, but not be a racist.
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Old October 25th, 2008, 06:29 PM   #48
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i think all politicians are evil and corrupt. thats why im writing myself in and voting for me.


SLAYER 08!!!!!


If God listens to you, you may be the right choice!

The 2 biggest reasons for me not wanting Obama?

He is a lawyer.
He can't do math.

By no means is Barrack an idiot but I just don't trust him.

I agree with McCain going back to his old self once elected.

I saw a sign today I have to go get the details on:

"Obama, Osama, Chelea's Mama" I couldn't read the fine print though.

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Old October 25th, 2008, 06:52 PM   #49
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WAT?

How can he be racist? He has an african father and a white mother?

Please explain why you think he is elitist. There were some analysts on NPR debating this yesterday. I want to see why you feel that way.

My rational on racist: Member of Trinity Church in Chicago. Please do a google search and get back with me.

Elitest: He refuses to acknowlege the American flag. He will not wear a flag lapel pin and he will not place his hand over his heart during the National Anthem.

He also has a Comunist Flag with some murder/douchbag commie hero on it in his office.

I personally don't think that Obama has the Country's best interest in mind and he shows little patriatism or dedication to the United States.
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Old October 25th, 2008, 07:50 PM   #50
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By this logic, the racist would hate him/herself. Is that correct?

Sounds like there may be some confusion here about beleiving in sterotypes and being a racist.

For instance: It could be said that someone hates white trash, but not be a racist.
You have used all your spelling errors.


You are now forbidden to ever comment on anybody else who makes a spelling error.
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Old October 25th, 2008, 09:21 PM   #51
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He also has a Comunist Flag with some murder/douchbag commie hero on it in his office.
It was actually in one of his campaigner's offices. It was of Che Guevara. A lot of people think of him as a symbol of freedom but yet not enough realize he was the head bad guy for Fidel Castro for a while (executioner IIRC).
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It was actually in one of his campaigner's offices. It was of Che Guevara. A lot of people think of him as a symbol of freedom but yet not enough realize he was the head bad guy for Fidel Castro for a while (executioner IIRC).
Thank you for clearing that up. I still don't feel that the flag with Che Guevara's picture on it is appropriate for any US politician.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 12:41 AM   #53
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To say Obama isn't racist is just silly. He thinks he's black. He said his personal salvation lies in the salvation of all african americans. Do we even need to go back over the quotes from his own books? Something to the effect that he wanted to distance himself from his mother's race.
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Try a little light reading:

http://www.trinitychicago.org/index....tpage&Itemid=1

They have really toned down the site since last year but you still get the vibe of "black or nothing".

Here's a nice little tidbit:

Our History

We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community

Obama was a member of this church for 20 years and holds Rev. Wright in high esteem. I dare you to review Rev. Wright and the Church he preaches in. If you don't see racism, then you are retarded.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 12:58 AM   #55
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My rational on racist: Member of Trinity Church in Chicago. Please do a google search and get back with me.

Elitest: He refuses to acknowlege the American flag. He will not wear a flag lapel pin and he will not place his hand over his heart during the National Anthem.

He also has a Comunist Flag with some murder/douchbag commie hero on it in his office.

I personally don't think that Obama has the Country's best interest in mind and he shows little patriatism or dedication to the United States.
Along with all of that. He plans to change the words to the Pledge Of Alegence (Spelling?). I also believe that he will try to make this country believe in his muslim religon. I am no christian or any other religon by any means. I believe there is a higher power but that is about as far as it goes. I have my reasons. I think this country is f**ked enough, we dont need someone in office trying to completely change everyones beliefs and start a huge war within the country.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 07:58 AM   #56
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I have always voted GOP or independent I have never nor will ever vote Democrat. period.
That is the single biggest problem with this country right there. You will never vote down anything but party lines...you can claim to vote independent so that would equal about 2-3 votes over a 20 year period.


So basically you could fill out your voter cards for the rest of you natural life today. All they need to do is write in the names next to the (R) party as they are nominated.


I on the other hand have the ability to make rational, educated decisions for my self, not based on what party leaders think.
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as noted....

I have yet to read 1 post of WHY McCain...other than he's not Obama...and then typically there are a majority of posts that do nothing but bash Obama as a communist, racist, terrorist, anti christ, baby killing, going to force muslim religion on all, country hating, death to apple pie candidate.

I have never read and heard so much pure unadulterated hatred for a presidential candidate in all my years.

funny how a parties campaign can reflect and influence it supporters.
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Old October 26th, 2008, 08:18 AM   #58
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as noted....

I have yet to read 1 post of WHY McCain....
OK, I can answer that. I do not doubt McCain's honr to this country. A look at his military service tells that story. I doubt Obama's. Why? He won't even acknowledge the Bill Ayers thing and the Rev. Wright association doesn't help. McCain has no friends that were ever caught bombing the Pentagon(please don't go into a conspiracy theory about 9/11).
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Old October 26th, 2008, 08:36 AM   #59
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this is the reason I am voting for McCain, gunbanobama.com/ not the only, but one of the biggest
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Old October 26th, 2008, 08:42 AM   #60
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this is the reason I am voting for McCain, gunbanobama.com/ not the only, but one of the biggest
ok I have my flame suit on so Ill say it. I hope pistols get outlawed in the us just like Canada, I know off topic but tell me one reason you need to carry a pistol?
and if you answer its my right to bear arms thats horseshit.
Besides the facts that Criminals have them there is really no reason to carry IMO
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