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Old October 19th, 2008, 10:29 PM   #41
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McCain is a liberal Republican!
That's probably the first thing I would a agree with you on.
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Are you a lawyer?

Does it matter???
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No, but your replies have a way of making me feel guilty
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You know what? After reading this post, twice, I have to say that I would actually like to talk to you in person someday. You are right about me being an angry republican. When I hear someone say "it's all Bush's fault" It makes me angry and sad that people are so easily brainwashed by the "drive bys" (to quote my right wing hero). My comments about Obama are mine, and not what Rush or Hannedy (sp) have drilled into my head. If you would like, I would happily explain to you how I have come to these conclusions.

I would also like to apoligize for insulting your intelligence. It was rude and uncalled for, but you somehow really get under my skin.

I just hope that if Obama gets elected, it's by people like you and not those who are voting for his skin color or his Robin Hood policies.
Thanks GM

Im sorry that I can come off as an asshat sometimes. Politics can do that to people.
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This is an E-mail, I got from a friend that I thought you guys might like.


Only problem with this is that it's been re-written by someone other
than Charley (sic) Reese, and probably modified slightly enough to be
slanted more towards that editor's opinions. Still a reasonable column,
though (and it parallels a point I've been preaching for fifteen or
twenty years).

Unfortunately I've been unable to find an accurate reprint of this
article anywhere, including the Orlando Sentinel (1971-2001) or in the
archives of his syndicated column subsequent to that time.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/reese/reese-arch.html

...so I wonder if someone's trying to use his name to get their own
political views heard on a wider scale. Don't know... maybe Coop or
Grant can find a better reference for this article -- most of the
searches these days seem to still have the improper spelling(s).

BTW, if you haven't heard the "ObamaNation" man-on-the-street
interviews, let me know... I'll forward it -- it's pretty darned funny
(and scary).


On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 03:44:32PM -0500, Van wrote:
>
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> You've probably seen this before, but with the election now in progress
>
> {early voting} I'm glad it came around again.
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> Read, heed and vote your conscience.
>
> Charley
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> 545 PEOPLE
>
> By Charlie Reese
>
>
> Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then
> campaign against them.
>
> Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are
> against deficits, why we have deficits?
>
> Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and
> high taxes, why we have inflation and high taxes?
>
> You and I don't propose a federal budget The president
> does.
>
> You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations.
> The House of Representatives does.
>
> You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.
>
> You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.
>
> You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.
>
> One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court
> justices 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally,
> morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague
> this country.
>
> I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was
> created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty
> to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central
> bank.
>
> I excluded all the
> special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal
> authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a
> president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a
> politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to
> accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the
> legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.
>
> Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what
> they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of
> party.
>
> What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount
> of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood
> up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The president can
> only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.
>
> The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole
> responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving
> appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? She is the leader
> of the majority party She and fellow House
> members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the
> president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.
>
> It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace
> 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and
> irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not
> traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth
> that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must
> follow that what exists is what they want to exist.
>
> If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.
>
> If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.
>
> If the Marines are in IRAQ , it's because they want them in IRAQ .
>
> If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan
> not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.
> There are no insoluble government problems.
>
> Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire
> and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they
> can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from
> whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the
> belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like 'the economy,'
> 'inflation,' or 'politics' that prevent them from doing what they take an
> oath to do.
>
> Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.
>
> They, and they alone, have the power.
>
> They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their
> bosses provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.
>
> We should vote all of
> them out of office and clean up their mess!
>
>
> Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.
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