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Old October 6th, 2008, 06:44 PM   #1
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Default Dana 30 vs Dana 44 ??

I am thinking of adding some more lift and tires to the xj. My question is would it be worth my time and money to swap a dana 44 into the front to replace the hp 30. I know the u-joints are the same size, and the 44 shafts are a little bigger. So if I add a good set of axle shafts and u-joints to the 30 how much strength difference will there be between the two? I plan to run 35's or 36's Any thoughts on this would be great.
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Old October 6th, 2008, 06:58 PM   #2
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4:88's or higher run the 30, if you can spring for it get a super 30 kit
If you want to run lower the 44.
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Old October 6th, 2008, 07:02 PM   #3
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I ran 35-10.5 boggers on a cj 30 with chromos for over a year with no problems. I would check pricing on both ways and go from there.
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Old October 6th, 2008, 07:11 PM   #4
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I just found this link, they are still 27 spline but claim the will give you a new axle if you break one. Do they really honor that warranty with no questions? If they do that may be a good route since it is cheaper than the 30 spline shafts.
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Old October 6th, 2008, 07:13 PM   #5
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I just found this link, they are still 27 spline but claim the will give you a new axle if you break one. Do they really honor that warranty with no questions? If they do that may be a good route since it is cheaper than the 30 spline shafts.
they will, provided you dont go over there sugested tire size ect
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Old October 6th, 2008, 07:27 PM   #6
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http://www.drivetrainoutlet.com/Jeep..._04_TJ_XJ.html

forgot the link
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Old October 6th, 2008, 08:35 PM   #7
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Yea, they better not break for that price. At least D30 shafts are very plentiful.
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Old October 6th, 2008, 08:37 PM   #8
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A 44 isn't much of an upgrade IMHO. Stick with the 30, if you're not too stupid with the skinny pedal you'll be fine.
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Old October 6th, 2008, 10:47 PM   #9
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A 44 isn't much of an upgrade IMHO. Stick with the 30, if you're not too stupid with the skinny pedal you'll be fine.
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Old October 7th, 2008, 03:27 AM   #11
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that is priced too high.
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I'm pretty sure I've seen those somewhere around 450ish before.
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Old October 7th, 2008, 08:55 AM   #12
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A 44 isn't much of an upgrade IMHO. Stick with the 30, if you're not too stupid with the skinny pedal you'll be fine.
Its also either a pain in the ass or expensive (or both) swap due to the 5x4.5" bolt pattern.

Beef the D30.
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Old October 7th, 2008, 09:01 AM   #13
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I am running d44 knuckles on my d30, in ther pursuit of upgrading to chromos with a bigger u-joint.


Of course i wont upgrade the shafts untill i bust all the extra sets i have.
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what did the 44 knuckle do for you?
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what did the 44 knuckle do for you?
i believe you then have the option to run locking hubs??? i may be wrong just a guess though.
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what did the 44 knuckle do for you?
1. They are flat top knuckles so this allowed for high steer

2. The knuckles also have a larger opening which allow for a bigger *U-joint to fit through.

*However you would need the shafts that require this larger U-joint to take advantage of this.


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i believe you then have the option to run locking hubs??? i may be wrong just a guess though.
Im working with a CJ-7 d30 so i am uncertain of this transfer to an xj / yj / tj etc.

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1. They are flat top knuckles so this allowed for high steer

2. The knuckles also have a larger opening which allow for a bigger *U-joint to fit through.

*However you would need the shafts that require this larger U-joint to take advantage of this.



Im working with a CJ-7 d30 so i am uncertain of this transfer to an xj / yj / tj etc.
Same size hole as the 30, I use cj parts on 44 knuckles. Plus the larger u joint is not any wider than the small one it just has larger diameter caps and cross shafts
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what about running ZJ front shafts? I was told they have bigger ujoints? also gets rid of the vaccume issue. in my YJ that is.
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Same size hole as the 30, I use cj parts on 44 knuckles. Plus the larger u joint is not any wider than the small one it just has larger diameter caps and cross shafts
thanks.

So its just the AM chromo shafts that allow for a bigger u-joint?

btw Thanks 99grandtj

I got all my hs stuff done with the knuckles i got from you, worked great.

drives down the road perfectly straight.
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thanks.

So its just the AM chromo shafts that allow for a bigger u-joint?

btw Thanks 99grandtj

I got all my hs stuff done with the knuckles i got from you, worked great.

drives down the road perfectly straight.
Yes for a cj you need AM shafts. No problem
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