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Old October 2nd, 2008, 08:59 AM   #1
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quad cab 1/2 ton 4x4?

Total dog or acceptable? Say for a 5000lb trailer.
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 09:22 AM   #2
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I towed my YJ on a open trailer with a Commander with a 4.7L It did fine. I believe it got about 12 mpgs which I thought was ok for a big pig of a tow rig. Not quite a quad cab but still a 4.7L.
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 09:29 AM   #3
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What type of trailer and what 4.7? The new ones have 310 horsepower and 330 pound feet of torque. The older ones have 235 horsepower and 295 pound feet of torque....

I have pulled a 5000 pound boat with my jeep and it did perfectly fine. (obviously 235hp version)
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2003 truck.

flatbed (around 1600 lbs) with a 3200lb Jeep on it.
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 10:01 AM   #5
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You should be fine as long as it doesn't have the "good gas mileage" gear in it....
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Maybe he'll let you test drive this one? If it doesn't feel like it will do the job, you'll have your answer on the 2003 truck.

http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=93878


I believe Kelly has towed his YJ with his 4.7 WJ and that's a heavier load than you are planning for. That's the only other slighly relevant comparison I can think of.
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pm xj 98 he towed a similar load with an 07 same truck configuration.
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 10:47 AM   #8
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My 2000 Dakota Quad (doesn't weigh *much* less than a Ram) with 3.73 axle towed my 20' boat very well - better than my 350 Tahoe. That was probably 4000 pounds. Mileage is nothing to brag about
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My 2000 Dakota Quad (doesn't weigh *much* less than a Ram) with 3.73 axle towed my 20' boat very well - better than my 350 Tahoe. That was probably 4000 pounds. Mileage is nothing to brag about
I don't even check the mileage when I am towing, its not important to me. After all, I know its going to be bad....lol
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our 04 dakota quad cab pulled the new xj on a trailer quite well and still got about 10-12 mpg. took quite a while to get up to speed though but once it was there it stayed pretty steady.
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My 2000 Dakota Quad (doesn't weigh *much* less than a Ram)
My Ram weighs in around 6500-7000lbs. Haggar's Ram is the same truck, but stock.


What's your Dakota weigh?
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My Ram weighs in around 6500-7000lbs. Haggar's Ram is the same truck, but stock.


What's your Dakota weigh?
My ram actually weighs closer to 7400 lbs or so(according to the salvage scales) , with my hard mounted camper sheel setup in the bed (heavy 3/4 ton with a V10)....

....but, he was referring to the fact that I was *considering* a 2003 dodge ram 1/2 ton with a 4.7 V8, so with respect to that, the dakota isn't a huge difference in weight. Probably a 1000lb difference..
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My ram actually weighs closer to 7400 lbs or so(according to the salvage scales) , with my hard mounted camper sheel setup in the bed (heavy 3/4 ton with a V10)....
Guess I'm beyond that, then. I haven't used the truck for a scrap run in a long time.
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lemme chime in. i've towed with a 4.7l WJ, 4.7l Commander, and a 4.7l Ram 1500 (2004).

the WJ did the best of all of them. the transmission in the Commander and Ram have different programming than the WJ did (at least than my 99). both have difficulty upshifting even going down a mountain. i had to get up 10mph faster than i wanted to go then letoff and coast until i decelled about 15mph (5mph slower than i need to go) and then step back on the gas and lightly accelerator for it to upshift going DOWNhill.

my brother HATES that truck for towing. his '94 1500 x-cab LB with 412k did better (didn't stop worth a sh!t compared to the Dodge's rear discs, though).

my Commander drove me NUTS towing a CJ back from Atlanta. i will NEVER use the Commander again (as long as I have my diesel Ram) for towing.
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Towing my heavy as YJ on a heavy ass trailer with my WJ is just fine.. of course there isn't a ton of acceleration, but thats not that important.

I get anywhere between 10-12 mpg going 67. If I go 74ish (the next sweet spot) I get around 9mpg.. With the ac on, and going 74 mph I get around 5mph

The 4.7 has plenty of power to tow once you get up to 50mph..
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Some quotes from a buddy who tows a modded Toyota pickup. If you have any questions for him let me know.

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I tow with a 02 ram 1500 with a 4.7 with 3.50 gears. I'm at max capacity now. If it had the 3.90's I dont think any of my complaints would be a issue. Before the tons and cage and new body I had no issue's though.

You NEED a WD with a 1/2 ton. I towed without it and it sucked. My rig and trailer weigh almost as much as my tow rig now and once its moving you dont know it back there.

I have actually been kicking around buying a hemi 1/2 or 3/4 ton with the lower gears to replace my rig. I was looking into the tundra but it WAYYYY over priced.
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Hauling to RC I get around 10. Trip to tellico I got 11.5 round trip. Around town I got between 12.5 and 13 normally. If I baby it I might get 14.
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... I'm fine to tow just my rig. Add in food, tools camp stuff ect for me and 1 other with some firewood and that truck hates me. Oh and I use a WD setup and a sway controller.


Keep a eye on gearing. Anything under a 3.50ish gear isnt that good for towing. Seems 3.73-4.11 work well in most trucks.
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Lots of good info from folks, thnx!

Yeah, I think a WD hitch is a good idea for a 1/2 ton.

Don't know if I'm getting something, but thinking about it. My V10 truck is getting old and I don't really need that much truck for towing my new Jeep, which is going to be lighter than a stock TJ. Loaded trailer ought to be about 4800 lbs or so.
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not that it matters since you're looking at rams, but with my WD hitch, my WJ sits at stock height with a stock rear suspension.
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3.92 rear axle would be a plus, worse case you might need an add a leaf in the rear or air bags also, the rear springs on both my rams seem pretty soft.
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