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Old September 28th, 2008, 03:49 PM   #141
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I like your point, but G.W. didn't help the Heller decision. It lay purely on the Supreme Court. And won by only one vote.
This president will effect SCOTUS decisions for the next twenty years!
Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, David Souter, and John Roberts were all put in there by bush, and this made it possible for District of Columbia v. Heller to pass.
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Old September 28th, 2008, 03:51 PM   #142
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Old September 29th, 2008, 10:43 AM   #143
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The same way we cannot buy stinger missiles for personal use....unless maybe you think people should be able to.
Why not? You should be able to own anything you can afford and want to buy. It shouldn't be a crime to own anything.

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You will not find 1 post of mine advocating gun laws..and you never will...

I am just stating a a fact. There are laws that "infringe the right to bear arms" on a federal level.
Yes, and those laws are unconsititutional according to the second amendment.
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Old September 29th, 2008, 11:11 AM   #144
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Why not? You should be able to own anything you can afford and want to buy. It shouldn't be a crime to own anything.
I'm going to check out ebay for 50 tons of mustard gas.
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Old September 29th, 2008, 11:16 AM   #145
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I'm going to check out ebay for 50 tons of mustard gas.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=111230714

much more cost effective, and its allowable under the Geneva convention.
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Old September 30th, 2008, 11:01 AM   #146
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I'm going to check out ebay for 50 tons of mustard gas.
Maybe you should try Sadam's estate sale site. Anyway, have fun with your mustard gas, but remember that it's illegal to kill people.
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Old September 30th, 2008, 01:01 PM   #147
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Dear Kurt:
Thank you for contacting me regarding gun policy. I appreciate hearing your perspective on this important issue.
I respect the Second Amendment and responsible gun ownership. But I am also concerned about the human consequences of guns falling into the wrong hands and being misused. I do not find objectionable the goal of keeping firearms out of the hands of children, terrorists, gang members and criminals in general. The question for me is how to best accomplish that goal without abridging the rights of hunters, sportsmen, and other legitimate gun owners. As I consider gun legislation, I will work to find the appropriate balance between these two objectives.
For example, Senator David Vitter (R-LA), in response to complaints about the confiscation of firearms during the recovery from Hurricane Katrina, offered an amendment that would prohibit such confiscations in areas hit by natural disaster. I voted with Senator Vitter on this amendment. On the other hand, I support the re-imposition of the ban on the sale of assault weapons that expired in September 2004 because I believe these guns are used primarily for criminal rather than sporting intent. I also support requiring gun manufacturers to install child safety locks on all of their products.
Again, I have always believed that the Second Amendment protects the right of individuals to bear arms, but I also identify with the need for crime-ravaged communities to save their children from the violence that plagues our streets through common-sense, effective safety measures. I do not believe that these two principles – the individual right and the rights of a community to maintain public safety – are contradictory.
On June 26, 2008, the Supreme Court endorsed that same view. Although it ruled that the D.C. gun ban went too far, Justice Scalia himself acknowledged that this right is not absolute and subject to reasonable regulations enacted by local communities to keep their streets safe.
Anyone who lives in a large urban center like Chicago is aware of the terrible toll gun violence is taking on American society. As a statewide elected official who has traveled our state extensively, I appreciate how strongly sportsmen, hunters and collectors feel about their rights to own firearms. But I am convinced we can more aggressively attack the problem of gun violence without interfering with the rights of responsible gun owners.
Again, thank you for contacting me. I look forward to keeping in touch.
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Old September 30th, 2008, 01:08 PM   #148
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And the fact that he wants to increase defense spending. Seriously? How about our schools which are dying right now? Sad.

On the flip side, Obama mutters and says "um" or "Uh" WAY too much. Its like he doesnt know what he wants to say, McCain doesnt have that problem.
Of course spend money on defense, that is what our federal tax money is supposed to go to according to the constitution... As to the schools I'm all for it but that is a state issue not a federal one... Just my .02
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Old September 30th, 2008, 01:12 PM   #149
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Damn, he didn't......

yup, he trotted out 'the children'

I'm with the late George Carlin on that one- 'Screw the children!'

It is not the government's responsibility to ensure the safety of children. That's the parent's job.
It's the responsibility of a gun owner to secure his weapons.


Like I've said before, gun laws are meaningless as criminals by definition do not follow the law. Gun laws are just an easy way for politicians to appear 'tough on crime'.
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