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Old September 24th, 2008, 04:02 PM   #1
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NEW YORK (CNN) -- Republican presidential candidate John McCain announced Wednesday that he is suspending his campaign to return to Washington and focus on the "historic" crisis facing the U.S. economy...



IMO, this is pandering at its absolute finest.

The way I see it, offering to suspend the campaign is a no-lose situation for McCain:

If Obama agrees to it, McCain can take credit for being the bigger man and having proposed it and then have as many photo-ops and press conferences where he basically states as much even if he never says it directly.

If Obama says, "No," well, then McCain can complain that Obama refuses to set politics aside during this time of need.

Does the McCain camp seriously think that by suspending his campaign that the press will suddenly stop talking about the presidential elections. I mean, they've only been reporting on the subject for about a year, why on Earth would the possibly stop now?
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i think its great that someone is actually going to be doing their job.
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plus, if they both leave, it just means that Biden and Palin will be out there to campaign. Palin makes Biden look like a fool.
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Did you hear Obamas comment: If you need me call me....... Thats a presidential attitude.
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plus, if they both leave, it just means that Biden and Palin will be out there to campaign. Palin makes Biden look like a fool.
palin is hawt, i would vote for her if she was the nazi party candidate.
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i think its great that someone is actually going to be doing their job.
Generally I can agree with that. I remember thinking a few months back that I would actually be sort of angry if one of Michigan's senators or congressmen were wasting so much time out of their home trying to become president.



But offering to suspend his campaign to go back to Washington when he doesn't serve on the appropriations committee, banking committee, budget committee, commerce committee, or finance committee seems to be a bit tic especially given that, from what I have read/heard, there is little chance of the President's plan being passed by the current session.
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palin is hawt, i would vote for her if she was the nazi party candidate.
Like with one of those whip-like things?
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your a nazi pp, you should know they are called a pace stick.
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First Obama calls McCain and suggests a joint statement on the economic issues going on. 6 hours later McCain calls back and says sure, in principle. Right after that, McCain announces campaign suspension.

As to what Obama said? How about this instead:

"It's my belief that this is exactly the time when the American people need to hear from the person will be the next president," Obama said in Clearwater, Florida. "It is going to be part of the president's job to deal with more than one thing at once. It's more important than ever to present ourselves to the American people."

"If I can be helpful, then I'm prepared to be anywhere, any time. ... [I] don't want to infuse Capitol Hill with presidential politics."

Personally, I agree with Obama on this, the president can not call a "time out". He needs to be able to multi-task. 45 days till election.
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First Obama calls McCain and suggests a joint statement on the economic issues going on. 6 hours later McCain calls back and says sure, in principle. Right after that, McCain announces campaign suspension.

As to what Obama said? How about this instead:

"It's my belief that this is exactly the time when the American people need to hear from the person will be the next president," Obama said in Clearwater, Florida. "It is going to be part of the president's job to deal with more than one thing at once. It's more important than ever to present ourselves to the American people."

"If I can be helpful, then I'm prepared to be anywhere, any time. ... [I] don't want to infuse Capitol Hill with presidential politics."

Personally, I agree with Obama on this, the president can not call a "time out". He needs to be able to multi-task. 45 days till election.
IMO, when you're running for president as a senator, governor, or what have you, your presidential campaign comes second. A president must multi-task but he only has one job. These people are still senators, and when they're off campaigning who is taking care of their other responsibilities they were first voted in for?
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IMO, when you're running for president as a senator, governor, or what have you, your presidential campaign comes second. A president must multi-task but he only has one job. These people are still senators, and when they're off campaigning who is taking care of their other responsibilities they were first voted in for?

They return to the Hill for votes. It has always been that way.

I have a link somewhere to the .gov site where you can see the voting record for the candidates (for all congressmen).

OK, found it: http://thomas.loc.gov/home/rollcallvotes.html

Per your argument, no government employee should run for higher office, since they will need to leave their jobs behind in order to get elected.
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They return to the Hill for votes. It has always been that way.

I have a link somewhere to the .gov site where you can see the voting record for the candidates (for all congressmen).

OK, found it: http://thomas.loc.gov/home/rollcallvotes.html

Per your argument, no government employee should run for higher office, since they will need to leave their jobs behind in order to get elected.
No, that's not exactly what I'm arguing. McCain says he has things as a Senator he needs to attend to first, because at the time they are more important. Instead of just saying, eh fukc it, he's actually DOING something about it, instead of running his mouth like Obama.
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No, that's not exactly what I'm arguing. McCain says he has things as a Senator he needs to attend to first, because at the time they are more important. Instead of just saying, eh fukc it, he's actually DOING something, instead of running his mouth like all the .
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Well, what exactly IS McCain going to do about it?


That's the important question
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I feel any person running for a political office should be suspended from their current position without pay and not have the chance to resume in that capacity if they lose. Maybe wait till the next election and try to get back in ?

Will your employer let you keep your job while you openly try to get into another ?.

If change is what we really want then lets go back to when farmers left their fields , held office for a term or so and returned to their farms.
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Per your argument, no government employee should run for higher office, since they will need to leave their jobs behind in order to get elected.
I'm of the opinion that when a public servant receives the nomination from their party they should vacate their position to run for president.

Like him or not you have to respect Bob Dole's voluntary resignation from the senate in '96. IMO, that is the single most honorable and classiest campaign event I've witnessed since I've been of voting age- since '92.
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What is more important than determining who will be our next preisdent? One of these guys has to deal with this situation when they come into office. I want to know what they are going to do about it. This is a cop out by McCain in my opinion.
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wrong we need action now and mccain is doing the write thing its only a cop out if ur runing from smothing tell me what hes running from
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