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Old September 23rd, 2008, 08:13 PM   #1
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Old September 24th, 2008, 11:34 AM   #2
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"We look forward to working with the next president to hammer out a final resolution of this issue."


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Oh the jobs this will create if it ever goes through.
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"We look forward to working with the next president to hammer out a final resolution of this issue."


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Until the Dem President can be the one to hammer it out.

If the Dem's don't win, then I would not be suprised to see them double back.
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Old September 24th, 2008, 11:43 AM   #5
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Do you think the oil companies/investors can get drilling started before the next president and congress is sworn in?
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Old September 24th, 2008, 11:45 AM   #6
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Do you think the oil companies/investors can get drilling started before the next president and congress is sworn in?
no, but i bet we could within one year of this ban being lifted.
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Even if they do start drilling, I do not think it will affect the price at the pump we will be paying 3.50$per gallon+ forever!!
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no, but i bet we could within one year of this ban being lifted.
Oil companies need to be sure this is going to last, otherwise nothing will be done. BTW in will take longer than a year, more like 10 years before we get oil from there, but still worth it.
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Oil companies need to be sure this is going to last, otherwise nothing will be done. BTW in will take longer than a year, more like 10 years before we get oil from there, but still worth it.
10 years my ass. you have no idea what your talking about, your just bleating out what you have heard others say. as for this lasting. unless china and india go back to the stoneage, oil will continue to be in high demand.
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10 years my ass. you have no idea what your talking about, your just bleating out what you have heard others say. as for this lasting. unless china and india go back to the stoneage, oil will continue to be in high demand.
I was talking about this ban lasting, not the drilling.

Yes, 10 years is what I have heard various oil executives say it would take them. You think they have no idea what they are talking about?
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I was talking about this ban lasting, not the drilling.

Yes, 10 years is what I have heard various oil executives say it would take them. You think they have no idea what they are talking about?
i think that they are bullshitting us. i know it takes my dad and uncle about 80 days to drill a onshore deep oil well, and it took them well under a year to get their big rig up and running. I think if the money is there, and it is, the oil companies will be drilling offshore by the year 2010.
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Yes, 10 years is what I have heard various oil executives say it would take them. You think they have no idea what they are talking about?
the longest I have heard was 4 years. I think the price affect would happen before drilling even starts though.
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the longest I have heard was 4 years. I think the price affect would happen before drilling even starts though.
the price may drop a little, but it will never be where it was. the price needs to drop down and stabilize. we in the oil business stand to profit more if it does.
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Man, I miss .99 a gallon....
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Old September 24th, 2008, 07:02 PM   #15
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10 years my ass. you have no idea what your talking about, your just bleating out what you have heard others say. ......................................

Aren't we all just bleating out what others have said?

Off shore oil. If you knew exactly where it was and had the equipment and personnel on hand then I am sure it will be relatively quick to bring product to market.

But, the reality is, they are not 100% sure where it is, they still have to locate the best places to drill. The equipment is not off the self drilling rigs and the personnel are not coming from the unemployment roles. I heard somewhere that getting the rigs built and shipped here could take years because of existing contracts. There are companies in the U.S. already. Contracts are in place to replace and repair existing rigs.

This will take time. Hopefully less time than some say, but it will take time.

Funny how "experts" can have differing opinions. And I am talking real "experts", not the ones found on websites.
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Aren't we all just bleating out what others have said?

Off shore oil. If you knew exactly where it was and had the equipment and personnel on hand then I am sure it will be relatively quick to bring product to market.

But, the reality is, they are not 100% sure where it is, they still have to locate the best places to drill. The equipment is not off the self drilling rigs and the personnel are not coming from the unemployment roles. I heard somewhere that getting the rigs built and shipped here could take years because of existing contracts. There are companies in the U.S. already. Contracts are in place to replace and repair existing rigs.

This will take time. Hopefully less time than some say, but it will take time.

Funny how "experts" can have differing opinions. And I am talking real "experts", not the ones found on websites.
we know where the oil is and we have the manpower and resources needed to make the rigs. Like i have said before, if there is money and need, we will get it done.
to give you an idea of how hard oil is to find, my dad and i can find it with a long metal spring on a handle and a weight on one end. if you don't believe me, come visit one of our oil wells. drilling for oil is like sticking straws in a soda, once you know where it is, sink holes like crazy.
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we know where the oil is and we have the manpower and resources needed to make the rigs. Like i have said before, if there is money and need, we will get it done.
to give you an idea of how hard oil is to find, my dad and i can find it with a long metal spring on a handle and a weight on one end. if you don't believe me, come visit one of our oil wells. drilling for oil is like sticking straws in a soda, once you know where it is, sink holes like crazy.

Well, get your ole divining rod out there and find more. My tank is getting empty.
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Well, get your ole divining rod out there and find more. My tank is getting empty.
lol, get back with me in 10 years.
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Old September 29th, 2008, 02:36 PM   #19
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More Pelosi BS:

http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/yourlife/111202

Drill, Baby, Drill
by Ben Stein

Remember a few months ago when oil was heading ever higher, gasoline reached
unheard of prices, and Americans were essentially hysterical? Remember when
Americans demanded, actually screamed in the politicians' ears that we wanted to
drill in our offshore areas?

Remember when poll after poll said Americans wanted to pass over the objections from multi-millionaire beachfront movie star home owners and actually do something for the good of America as a whole? Remember the politicians promising they would heed the words of their constituents?

Well, the politicians apparently don't remember it at all.

Amazingly, the Democrat-controlled House of Representatives gave the American people a firm slap in the face while it planted a big wet sloppy kiss on the lips of Hollywood's glitterati. On September 16th, the House of Representatives narrowly passed Speaker Nancy Pelosi's comically named "Access" Bill. This past Saturday, the Senate approved the lifting of the 26-year ban on new offshore oil drilling. In the guise of doing what America wants Speaker Pelosi's bill does the following:

* Places off limits areas within fifty miles of the coast line, where 80 percent of the oil and gas deposits are. This bill, if it becomes law, will place these energy rich areas off limits permanently.

* Places off limits such energy rich areas as the Destin Dome off Florida and the super-rich areas off the coast of California on a permanent basis.

* In a gesture of what she probably thought was courage, Speaker Pelosi allows drilling on seven percent of the acreage offshore in the most difficult, deep water areas, one hundred or more miles offshore.

* If state legislatures sign on, drilling would be allowed in a further 12 percent of the untapped areas between 50 and 100 miles offshore -- again, difficult areas to explore and difficult areas in which to drill.

This is a bad joke. Why are we doing this to ourselves? What is the utility of making us ever weaker, more vulnerable, and dependent upon people who hate us?

This is a bill that cries out for veto or massive revision. It's just a bill to curry favor with the beautiful people, not with ordinary citizens. It is exactly what we do not need, which is vastly more drilling and production of American oil and gas in American waters.
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More Pelosi BS:

http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/yourlife/111202

Drill, Baby, Drill
by Ben Stein

Remember a few months ago when oil was heading ever higher, gasoline reached
unheard of prices, and Americans were essentially hysterical? Remember when
Americans demanded, actually screamed in the politicians' ears that we wanted to
drill in our offshore areas?

Remember when poll after poll said Americans wanted to pass over the objections from multi-millionaire beachfront movie star home owners and actually do something for the good of America as a whole? Remember the politicians promising they would heed the words of their constituents?

Well, the politicians apparently don't remember it at all.

Amazingly, the Democrat-controlled House of Representatives gave the American people a firm slap in the face while it planted a big wet sloppy kiss on the lips of Hollywood's glitterati. On September 16th, the House of Representatives narrowly passed Speaker Nancy Pelosi's comically named "Access" Bill. This past Saturday, the Senate approved the lifting of the 26-year ban on new offshore oil drilling. In the guise of doing what America wants Speaker Pelosi's bill does the following:

* Places off limits areas within fifty miles of the coast line, where 80 percent of the oil and gas deposits are. This bill, if it becomes law, will place these energy rich areas off limits permanently.

* Places off limits such energy rich areas as the Destin Dome off Florida and the super-rich areas off the coast of California on a permanent basis.

* In a gesture of what she probably thought was courage, Speaker Pelosi allows drilling on seven percent of the acreage offshore in the most difficult, deep water areas, one hundred or more miles offshore.

* If state legislatures sign on, drilling would be allowed in a further 12 percent of the untapped areas between 50 and 100 miles offshore -- again, difficult areas to explore and difficult areas in which to drill.

This is a bad joke. Why are we doing this to ourselves? What is the utility of making us ever weaker, more vulnerable, and dependent upon people who hate us?

This is a bill that cries out for veto or massive revision. It's just a bill to curry favor with the beautiful people, not with ordinary citizens. It is exactly what we do not need, which is vastly more drilling and production of American oil and gas in American waters.
At least it makes sense now. Do something to get the citizens of the US off their asses knowing the media will do well keeping everyone blind to the small (and important) fine print.
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