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Old September 13th, 2008, 06:09 PM   #1
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Unhappy Why Flat Towing is EVIL!

I've been flat towing for years always with the idea that when i had the spare cash (that's funny, spare) I'd get a trailer.

Well on the way to OSTC today, the Jeep had a boo boo. I personally Flat tow with the driveshafts connected, the t-case in neutral, and the manual tranny in 1st like it says in the manual. Obviously, removing the driveshafts would be better but it adds to the get ready time... Anyway, I've flat towed several thousand miles with NO problems this way until today...





What you are looking at is the T-case. First pic is from the passenger side looking just above the frame rail. Second pic is from the drivers side underneath the skid plate.

I'm not sure exactly what happened but I think I must have hit a big enough bump/pothole and it caused the t-case to engage. Basically after 150 trouble free miles, I feel this vibration and just as quickly as it came, it went away. but when it went away, it caused a jolt - obviously the case cracking...

Sucks to be me... but the worst part is that I wasted a tank of gas doing it

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Old September 13th, 2008, 06:11 PM   #2
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jb weld it. all will be better.
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Old September 13th, 2008, 06:15 PM   #3
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Old September 13th, 2008, 06:16 PM   #4
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jb weld it. all will be better.


I had planned on scotch tape but you may be onto something.... hmmm
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Old September 13th, 2008, 06:19 PM   #5
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you can tig weld that back together.........

yes i've done it, and the case was still going strong 12,000 miles later when i pulled it
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Old September 13th, 2008, 06:43 PM   #6
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What model Jeep, what year, and which T-Case?

Any locking diffs?
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Old September 13th, 2008, 08:04 PM   #7
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That sucks ! Well I'm sure nobody's having any fun in the rain anyways...

Good luck with the fix.
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Old September 13th, 2008, 08:22 PM   #8
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What model Jeep, what year, and which T-Case?

Any locking diffs?
It's an NP-231 from a 95 YJ Front is a dana 44 with lockouts so no worries on that end. Rear has an Aussie in it which really shouldn't make a difference since the drive shaft is spinning either way.
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Old September 13th, 2008, 08:38 PM   #9
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Wow that really blows.
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did it jump into gear or what
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Old September 13th, 2008, 08:43 PM   #11
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hmmm have someone coming up grab a tcase and swap that F-er
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i have one i could supply for a price
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Dumb question, but, front hubs weren't locked in, were they? Neutral in a YJ case does disconnect from the transmission, but it locks the front and rear outputs together.
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PM me your price, I'm probably going to be in the market. Depending on if it f'd-up any other drivetrain parts. If it's jut the case, I'll fix it. If it FUBAR'd the tranny or anything else (not so likely) then it's getting a whole new driveline - prolly Chevy 1 ton from the motor down.
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Major suckage.
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That sucks, as much i hate pulling the driveshaft out in the rain, i still make myself do it.
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Dumb question, but, front hubs weren't locked in, were they? Neutral in a YJ case does disconnect from the transmission, but it locks the front and rear outputs together.
That is where I was going with it. But the '95 231 has a true neutral. The changeover was around '93 or '94.
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PM me your price, I'm probably going to be in the market. Depending on if it f'd-up any other drivetrain parts. If it's jut the case, I'll fix it. If it FUBAR'd the tranny or anything else (not so likely) then it's getting a whole new driveline - prolly Chevy 1 ton from the motor down.


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Bummer Matt. I wondered why we didn't see you. You could have brought the rice burner.
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damn that really sucks
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