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View Poll Results: Who would you pic if the election were held today?
McCain-Palin 71 82.56%
Obama-Biden 15 17.44%
Voters: 86. You may not vote on this poll

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Old September 2nd, 2008, 12:58 PM   #21
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2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE COMPARISON TALKING POINTS



ISSUE


JOHN McCAIN BARACK OBAMA
Favors new drilling offshore US
Yes No


Will appoint judges who interpret the law not make it
Yes No


Served in the US Armed Forces
Yes No

Amount of time served in the US Senate
22 YEARS 2 YEARS



Will institute a socialized national health care plan
No Yes


Supports abortion throughout the pregnancy
No Yes



Would pull troops out of Iraq immediately
No Yes



Supports gun ownership rights
Yes No



Supports homosexual marriage
No Yes



Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase
No Yes



Voted against making English the official language
No Yes



Voted to give Social Security benefits to illegals
No Yes



CAPITAL GAINS TAX
MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.

OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales. (How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.)



DIVIDEND TAX
MCCAIN
15% (no change)

OBAMA
39.6% - (How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that 'Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.')


INCOME TAX
MCCAIN
(no changes)
Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250


OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
Under Obama, your taxes could almost double!


INHERITANCE TAX
MCCAIN
- 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)


OBAMA
Restore the inheritance tax
Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes.

NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA
New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet. New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least....New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!

You can verify the above at the following web sites:


http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/e...08/index..html

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/iss...ues.taxes.html

http://elections.foxnews.com/?s=proposed+taxes

http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/p..._on_taxes.html

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-.../barack_obama/

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-...s/john_mccain/
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2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE COMPARISON TALKING POINTS



ISSUE


JOHN McCAIN BARACK OBAMA
Favors new drilling offshore US
Yes No


Will appoint judges who interpret the law not make it
Yes No


Served in the US Armed Forces
Yes No

Amount of time served in the US Senate
22 YEARS 2 YEARS



Will institute a socialized national health care plan
No Yes


Supports abortion throughout the pregnancy
No Yes



Would pull troops out of Iraq immediately
No Yes



Supports gun ownership rights
Yes No



Supports homosexual marriage
No Yes



Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase
No Yes



Voted against making English the official language
No Yes



Voted to give Social Security benefits to illegals
No Yes



CAPITAL GAINS TAX
MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.

OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales. (How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.)



DIVIDEND TAX
MCCAIN
15% (no change)

OBAMA
39.6% - (How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that 'Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.')


INCOME TAX
MCCAIN
(no changes)
Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250


OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
Under Obama, your taxes could almost double!


INHERITANCE TAX
MCCAIN
- 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)


OBAMA
Restore the inheritance tax
Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes.

NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA
New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet. New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least....New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!

You can verify the above at the following web sites:


http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/e...08/index..html

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/iss...ues.taxes.html

http://elections.foxnews.com/?s=proposed+taxes

http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/p..._on_taxes.html

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-.../barack_obama/

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-...s/john_mccain/
Yep, that about sums it up and explains my vote.
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Old September 2nd, 2008, 01:43 PM   #24
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2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE COMPARISON TALKING POINTS



ISSUE


JOHN McCAIN BARACK OBAMA



CAPITAL GAINS TAX
MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.

OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales. (How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.)



DIVIDEND TAX
MCCAIN
15% (no change)

OBAMA
39.6% - (How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that 'Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.')


INCOME TAX
MCCAIN
(no changes)
Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250


OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
Under Obama, your taxes could almost double!


INHERITANCE TAX
MCCAIN
- 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)


OBAMA
Restore the inheritance tax
Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes.

NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA
New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet. New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least....New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!

You can verify the above at the following web sites:


http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/e...08/index..html

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/iss...ues.taxes.html

http://elections.foxnews.com/?s=proposed+taxes

http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/p..._on_taxes.html

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-.../barack_obama/

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-...s/john_mccain/
well there's some wrong info here, according to this:

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publi....cfm?ID=411693

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it's sad that people still vote strictly on political party instead of the better candidate.
No, I think he is saying vote republican if you want to support you men and women in uniform... Historically a democrat in office means that the military as a whole goes without because the fund their programs and get that money out of the military budget.
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well there's some wrong info here, according to this:

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publi....cfm?ID=411693

Well, how about this? I'm going to vote for McCain/Palin because I just plain don't like Obama or his fuckhead V.P. choice. I don't like fuckers with Mooslim sounding names and communist beliefs. I don't like fuckers who represent the things I am so vehemently opposed to. I don't like an asshole who consorts with the likes of some of the people that Obama has been known to consort with.
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Well, how about this? I'm going to vote for McCain/Palin because I just plain don't like Obama or his fuckhead V.P. choice. I don't like fuckers with Mooslim sounding names and communist beliefs. I don't like fuckers who represent the things I am so vehemently opposed to. I don't like an asshole who consorts with the likes of some of the people that Obama has been known to consort with.
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Well, how about this? I'm going to vote for McCain/Palin because I just plain don't like Obama or his fuckhead V.P. choice. I don't like fuckers with Mooslim sounding names and communist beliefs. I don't like fuckers who represent the things I am so vehemently opposed to. I don't like an asshole who consorts with the likes of some of the people that Obama has been known to consort with.
so were you mis-representing the facts to favor your candidate?
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so were you mis-representing the facts to favor your candidate?
I got that information in an email. I checked some of the facts. But, as we all know, with Washington types, the "facts" that they state today may change next week. So, no. I was not intentionally mis-representing the facts to favor McCain.

However, I will go out of my way to persuade others to vote AGAINST Obama. Why? Because he's a commie, pinko, liberal mouthpiece.
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However, I will go out of my way to persuade others to vote AGAINST Obama. Why? Because he's a commie, pinko, liberal mouthpiece.
YEAH! And he likes WATERMELON TOO! DON'T YOU FORGET IT!!!



















































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However, I will go out of my way to persuade others to vote AGAINST Obama. Why? Because he's a commie, pinko, liberal mouthpiece.
I love guys like you who still use "commie" and "Pinko" it makes me LOL.
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I love guys like you who still use "commie" and "Pinko" it makes me LOL.
What if I told you, your pinko commie mother sucked so much di.......

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the difference:
John McCain: Free Market Capitalist

Barak Obama: wants to implement income redistribution and move towards socialism/communism Reward the underachievers.
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