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Old September 2nd, 2008, 06:00 PM   #61
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I agree with what you are saying. You could have responded differently though. Instead, you responded by telling a member of the armed forces that he is too stupid to find a regular job and that he's an idiot for joining the armed forces. You further inferred that because he was stupid you would be laughing at him during his next tour in Iraq.
Basically Mike sumed up most of the retards in the Army with that statement. Sad but true. This does not apply to anyone that went through WestPoint.


But I know You all are going to come back with the "you've never served so your not a real american" retort
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So what exactly were the police supposed to do? Knock on the door and hope the people inside weren't bad guys with guns?

If they conducted a raid with an improper search warrant, there will be consequences. If not, shit happens. Call off the war-on-drugs if everyone's delicate sensibilities are hurt.
Well it would seem to me that a logical first step would have been to try to figure out who lived in the house that the drugs were being delivered to. Not doing that put everyone at risk.
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Basically Mike sumed up most of the retards in the Army with that statement. Sad but true. This does not apply to anyone that went through WestPoint.


But I know You all are going to come back with the "you've never served so your not a real american" retort
Or PP and the Pat Tilman types to be added to the WEST Point guys
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Basically Mike sumed up most of the retards in the Army with that statement. Sad but true. This does not apply to anyone that went through WestPoint.


But I know You all are going to come back with the "you've never served so your not a real american" retort
You are a fucking douche.
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Mike (and Drew) - I often enjoy jousting with you guys, but this is over the line. Your recent-graduate megalomania has gotten the better of you again.

One of my biggest - if not THE biggest - pet peeves are kids (usually) who go off to college and are somehow transformed into intellectuals who are vastly superior to the hoards of knuckle-dragging subhumans that clutter their earth.

Ironically, in my experience, I find this behavior to be most pronounced in those least poised to make such assertions. Characteristics are:

1) First in their family to attend a college or university
2) Generally enrolled in a lower-tier school with low to non-existent enrollment standards (ahem CMU?)
3) Major in academically non-challenging programs like education, social work, "soft" business, psychology, philosophy, etc... Rarely see a major (or even an elective course) in a hard science (biology, chemistry...) or technical area (engineering, computer science, etc...).
4) Extended graduation dates, despite low-drag coursework - usually due to serial major-switching ("exploration").

Your predictability disappoints me. Not everybody in the military is a gem, and neither is everybody on a college campus. Different, but equal paths for different people.

Now I went to school (not West Point, Annapolis, USAFA, USCGA, Citadel, or VMI), got degrees in legitimate, hard technical topics AND served. Where do I fit in?
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I would guess not many of the guys coming home get much respect? as it is per the fine leadership that GW has shown us. maybe the idea that people have given their lives and came home as they were asked to do by the country they cherish? sounds like the "few and proud" are being left behind by the "many and bigoted?" I dunno about you guys but my dad served, my wifes dad served. I would if they asked me. I expect many thousands after us will serve. the idea that one is a "Idiot" for serving or a "dumbass" for following GW isn't the issue. the fact that people refuse to respect a person for being a soldier unless he/she's cut to peices or in a body bag never cesies to amaze me. I would expect karma will get you all in the end.
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Mike (and Drew) - I often enjoy jousting with you guys, but this is over the line. Your recent-graduate megalomania has gotten the better of you again.

One of my biggest - if not THE biggest - pet peeves are kids (usually) who go off to college and are somehow transformed into intellectuals who are vastly superior to the hoards of knuckle-dragging subhumans that clutter their earth.

Ironically, in my experience, I find this behavior to be most pronounced in those least poised to make such assertions. Characteristics are:

1) First in their family to attend a college or university
2) Generally enrolled in a lower-tier school with low to non-existent enrollment standards (ahem CMU?)
3) Major in academically non-challenging programs like education, social work, "soft" business, psychology, philosophy, etc... Rarely see a major (or even an elective course) in a hard science (biology, chemistry...) or technical area (engineering, computer science, etc...).
4) Extended graduation dates, despite low-drag coursework - usually due to serial major-switching ("exploration").

Your predictability disappoints me. Not everybody in the military is a gem, and neither is everybody on a college campus. Different, but equal paths for different people.

Now I went to school (not West Point, Annapolis, USAFA, USCGA, Citadel, or VMI), got degrees in legitimate, hard technical topics AND served. Where do I fit in?
chill out. I called out SS for talking shit about me and being a condescending asshat because he thinks he's SS (Super Special) for being in the army. I wasn't talking about anybody else. I don't have a problem with him being in the military or in college. I don't think I'm better than anybody else because I went to college, is he better than somebody else because he's in the army? I don't think so.
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Sounds like a Freudian slip that shows us his true colors.
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chill out. I called out SS for talking shit about me and being a condescending asshat because he thinks he's SS (Super Special) for being in the army. I wasn't talking about anybody else. I don't have a problem with him being in the military or in college. I don't think I'm better than anybody else because I went to college, is he better than somebody else because he's in the army? I don't think so.
Go ahead and kick the slats outta SS all you want.

However, be sure to separate the individual from the role.

Yes, everybody who enlists to serve is due respect from you. You may elect not to respect the individual, but do respect the uniform (i.e. role). That individual may be called upon to lay down their life for yours at any moment. They don't get to question their orders, have a focus group, or offer alternate opinions - no matter how bad/crazy it looks. Don't forget that. Most of those serving never have to face that, but they all could.

Hell, I even addressed John Conyers as "Congressman Conyers" when I don't think he's personally qualified to park my car (hell, he'd try to steal it) - but he is a U.S. Congressman. Respect the office, but not the person.
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Mike (and Drew) - I often enjoy jousting with you guys, but this is over the line. Your recent-graduate megalomania has gotten the better of you again.

One of my biggest - if not THE biggest - pet peeves are kids (usually) who go off to college and are somehow transformed into intellectuals who are vastly superior to the hoards of knuckle-dragging subhumans that clutter their earth.

Ironically, in my experience, I find this behavior to be most pronounced in those least poised to make such assertions. Characteristics are:

1) First in their family to attend a college or university
2) Generally enrolled in a lower-tier school with low to non-existent enrollment standards (ahem CMU?)
3) Major in academically non-challenging programs like education, social work, "soft" business, psychology, philosophy, etc... Rarely see a major (or even an elective course) in a hard science (biology, chemistry...) or technical area (engineering, computer science, etc...).
4) Extended graduation dates, despite low-drag coursework - usually due to serial major-switching ("exploration").

Your predictability disappoints me. Not everybody in the military is a gem, and neither is everybody on a college campus. Different, but equal paths for different people.

Now I went to school (not West Point, Annapolis, USAFA, USCGA, Citadel, or VMI), got degrees in legitimate, hard technical topics AND served. Where do I fit in?
that is pretty kick ass duffy
now do me
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that is pretty kick ass duffy
now do me
You're one of 3 people on earth shorter than me, but the only one that hasn't appeared in "The Wizard of Oz" or an Austin Powers movie.

Your father-in-law apparently owed you a LOT of money.

But you can weld really, really well.

And (if luck holds) we can have a beer together in about two weeks...
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Mike (and Drew) - I often enjoy jousting with you guys, but this is over the line. Your recent-graduate megalomania has gotten the better of you again.

One of my biggest - if not THE biggest - pet peeves are kids (usually) who go off to college and are somehow transformed into intellectuals who are vastly superior to the hoards of knuckle-dragging subhumans that clutter their earth.

Ironically, in my experience, I find this behavior to be most pronounced in those least poised to make such assertions. Characteristics are:

1) First in their family to attend a college or university
2) Generally enrolled in a lower-tier school with low to non-existent enrollment standards (ahem CMU?)
3) Major in academically non-challenging programs like education, social work, "soft" business, psychology, philosophy, etc... Rarely see a major (or even an elective course) in a hard science (biology, chemistry...) or technical area (engineering, computer science, etc...).
4) Extended graduation dates, despite low-drag coursework - usually due to serial major-switching ("exploration").

Your predictability disappoints me. Not everybody in the military is a gem, and neither is everybody on a college campus. Different, but equal paths for different people.

Now I went to school (not West Point, Annapolis, USAFA, USCGA, Citadel, or VMI), got degrees in legitimate, hard technical topics AND served. Where do I fit in?

1careful now...CMU is a fine school with enrollment standards on par with the rest of the schools in Michigan

2there is more than one of you here that has done that...can you guess which school I went too?

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There's an awful lot of "internet tough" wingers on here who apparently don't see the creeping fascism in our society or are welcoming it. It can happen here.
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You're one of 3 people on earth shorter than me, but the only one that hasn't appeared in "The Wizard of Oz" or an Austin Powers movie.

Your father-in-law apparently owed you a LOT of money.

But you can weld really, really well.

And (if luck holds) we can have a beer together in about two weeks...
looking forward to it
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There's an awful lot of "internet tough" wingers on here who apparently don't see the creeping fascism in our society or are welcoming it. It can happen here.
It is happening in the Democratic party, right now.
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Mike (and Drew) - I often enjoy jousting with you guys, but this is over the line. Your recent-graduate megalomania has gotten the better of you again.

One of my biggest - if not THE biggest - pet peeves are kids (usually) who go off to college and are somehow transformed into intellectuals who are vastly superior to the hoards of knuckle-dragging subhumans that clutter their earth.

Ironically, in my experience, I find this behavior to be most pronounced in those least poised to make such assertions. Characteristics are:

1) First in their family to attend a college or university
2) Generally enrolled in a lower-tier school with low to non-existent enrollment standards (ahem CMU?)
3) Major in academically non-challenging programs like education, social work, "soft" business, psychology, philosophy, etc... Rarely see a major (or even an elective course) in a hard science (biology, chemistry...) or technical area (engineering, computer science, etc...).
4) Extended graduation dates, despite low-drag coursework - usually due to serial major-switching ("exploration").

Your predictability disappoints me. Not everybody in the military is a gem, and neither is everybody on a college campus. Different, but equal paths for different people.

Now I went to school (not West Point, Annapolis, USAFA, USCGA, Citadel, or VMI), got degrees in legitimate, hard technical topics AND served. Where do I fit in?
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Go ahead and kick the slats outta SS all you want.

However, be sure to separate the individual from the role.

Yes, everybody who enlists to serve is due respect from you. You may elect not to respect the individual, but do respect the uniform (i.e. role). That individual may be called upon to lay down their life for yours at any moment. They don't get to question their orders, have a focus group, or offer alternate opinions - no matter how bad/crazy it looks. Don't forget that. Most of those serving never have to face that, but they all could.

Hell, I even addressed John Conyers as "Congressman Conyers" when I don't think he's personally qualified to park my car (hell, he'd try to steal it) - but he is a U.S. Congressman. Respect the office, but not the person.
ohh ohh me next me next!!! I agree completly with you Duff. I learned a long time ago not to discuss religion or politics with friends or family. Everyones belief's are usually different, and sometimes trying to change a persons is like pissin into the wind.

In retrospect college probably wasnt the right path for me. Ive had to struggle with some class's(calc 2 and thermo engineering) these are the weed out classes. My problem is im to stupid & proud to quit at anything so im gonna keep pluggin along till i get my degree. I know there will always be people out the 10x "smarter" then i am, however i feel i can be a better engineer then they will because of my personality and my physical understanding of engineering.

I personally dont have much experience with the military. My brother in law Nick is there now, will be for another year while my sister and their new baby are in Germany. He gave up all the comforts of his normal life for the pride & honor that he gets & feels when he laces up his boots and puts on that uniform. Ive had a few friends of mine(SS and a few others from here) join up along with a friend that died there in Iraq. All of them know the consiquences that come with their job. They may not like what they gotta do sometimes, but they do their job anyway. Its for that fact that anyone in the military that performs their job correctly will always be held in my highest reguard. I dont know if i could do what they do.
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I'd expect to hear that kind of comment out of a liberal fag like Mikesova... never woulda expected it from a member of the armed forces. Way to represent!
wtf quote are you talking about?
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I apologize to any military guys who took offense to that (except SS, he's still an asshat.)
That was nice.

You know when we call you a fag that we say that really not knowing if its really true.

You still however are an, unpatriotic, Suzuki driving, anti American, soon to be holy roller, piece of shit.

But thats what makes you so COOOOL.
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Mike (and Drew) - I often enjoy jousting with you guys, but this is over the line. Your recent-graduate megalomania has gotten the better of you again.

One of my biggest - if not THE biggest - pet peeves are kids (usually) who go off to college and are somehow transformed into intellectuals who are vastly superior to the hoards of knuckle-dragging subhumans that clutter their earth.

Ironically, in my experience, I find this behavior to be most pronounced in those least poised to make such assertions. Characteristics are:

1) First in their family to attend a college or university
2) Generally enrolled in a lower-tier school with low to non-existent enrollment standards (ahem CMU?)
3) Major in academically non-challenging programs like education, social work, "soft" business, psychology, philosophy, etc... Rarely see a major (or even an elective course) in a hard science (biology, chemistry...) or technical area (engineering, computer science, etc...).
4) Extended graduation dates, despite low-drag coursework - usually due to serial major-switching ("exploration").

Your predictability disappoints me. Not everybody in the military is a gem, and neither is everybody on a college campus. Different, but equal paths for different people.

Now I went to school (not West Point, Annapolis, USAFA, USCGA, Citadel, or VMI), got degrees in legitimate, hard technical topics AND served. Where do I fit in?

Sorry to the statement above. I clarrified what I believe mike was trying to say in a HushHush forum.

The ones that can't make it in the real world but join so uncle sam can support them and then feel like they are superior are the ones I was refering to.

There are a lot of good soilders that also enlisted and are awesome humans!! But their are scum that enliseted because the army needs numbers and they are getting those good guys killed.

Edited do to not reading what I type when busy at work.

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That was nice.

You know when we call you a fag that we say that really not knowing if its really true.

You still however are an, unpatriotic, Suzuki driving, anti American, soon to be holy roller, piece of shit.

But thats what makes you so COOOOL.
I love it when you talk all christian to me...
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