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Old August 18th, 2008, 10:59 AM   #41
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Man it does look great maybe someday I will get that far. I'm just wondering why so many holes in the baffles in the gas tank.??
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Old August 18th, 2008, 12:33 PM   #42
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Very nice Tab, cant wait to do some wheelin' with you in that. Love the stance and how low you kept it, that is my goal also. Still need to stop in one of these days.

Made any rock rails for an xj yet?
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Old August 18th, 2008, 12:50 PM   #43
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if your waiting for it wait no longer, it sucks, the welds were not pre heated, the triangulation is all wrong blah blah blah



so when do I get to drive it?
You did drive it up onto that mound of sand at silver lake... remember...
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Old August 18th, 2008, 12:51 PM   #44
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Looks great Tab, can't wait to see how it does in Canada
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Old August 18th, 2008, 02:30 PM   #45
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Man it does look great maybe someday I will get that far. I'm just wondering why so many holes in the baffles in the gas tank.??
Because I've never made on before and never seen the actual baffles in one but knew they should be there for off camber driving. I just made them the way I thought they should be
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Old August 18th, 2008, 02:31 PM   #46
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i really like the big jack stands where did you get them?
They are truck and bus jackstands that I got from a customer of mine. Napa and any Auto Value can order them.
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Old August 18th, 2008, 02:36 PM   #47
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Thanks for all the compliments guys. But I'm still waiting for the naysayers.
The white will show dirt

thats all I got
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Old August 18th, 2008, 02:38 PM   #48
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looks sick man
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Old August 18th, 2008, 04:21 PM   #49
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Fuel cell

Bumper seems popular so another rear side view/bumper profile


Rear upper mounts are adjustable.


Rear lowers. Still want to make a brace going from the pinion support bolts to the truss.

Rear mount from below and a look at the bottom of fuel cell.

Front shock mounts.


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I guess my only beef would be the rear shock angling back, not in or straight up... but I really don't know how much that will change performance, it's just not the norm. I love how stable my rig is with the rear 2 shocks almost perfectly vertical.
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They angle in some but the fender well bumps in a lot on a tj leaving room for a coilover. Theres no way it would fit straight up. But that brings up a question, how come trophy trucks and buggy's run them at severe angles and some vehicles even run them horizontally? I think with coilovers any change in angle can be overcome with valving and spring rates. What do you think?
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only negative that i have, (and this is going to sound REAL anal) is the hiccup in the rr wheel well openening, doesn't really flow, any way that is a mean heep and those welds are top notch
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They angle in some but the fender well bumps in a lot on a tj leaving room for a coilover. Theres no way it would fit straight up. But that brings up a question, how come trophy trucks and buggy's run them at severe angles and some vehicles even run them horizontally? I think with coilovers any change in angle can be overcome with valving and spring rates. What do you think?
it has to do with dampening rates (vertical vs angled). I agree to a certain extent they can be compensated with valving. I'll think more about it.

any the springs should be the same color, you'll lose points at the car shows for that
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only negative that i have, (and this is going to sound REAL anal) is the hiccup in the rr wheel well openening, doesn't really flow, any way that is a mean heep and those welds are top notch
thats the factory cutout interfering with my cutout I'm making new front fenders, rockers, and rear corners that will cover the entire side of the jeep. I just didnt have time before silver lake and wanted to get pics up before I destroy it or get it full of mud.
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Tab, thats one sweet rig....
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it has to do with dampening rates (vertical vs angled). I agree to a certain extent they can be compensated with valving. I'll think more about it.

any the springs should be the same color, you'll lose points at the car shows for that
I hear ya on the paint. I was going to paint them but it will just chip off and I wasnt sure on the rates so it would be easier to sell them if they were not pink or something.

But you see my point on the angle deal right? Its clearly possible to mount them any way the builder wants as long as its planned for with tuning. Mine arent really at much of an angle and I dont think it would matter in my case anyway. It seems real stable with very little body roll on the road so far. I planned on a sway bar on the rear but may wait till I see how it climbs and transfers weight.
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Old August 18th, 2008, 04:53 PM   #57
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Since everyone is picking on it... it looks like your missing lug nuts

Yes I'm a bastard.

Yours is still more badass then mine. (both of mine)
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Thats the one I was waiting for! you win a prize jeapfreak! I'll send you 1 dollar casino cash. I know I bought them and they are in the mess somewhere but I cant find them and I went to silver lake without them. Oh, and there metric too you bringing the flatfender to ostc? I want to drive it, maybe we can trade for a spin.
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Old August 18th, 2008, 05:08 PM   #59
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I like itttt. Whats the overall height..
79" to top of cage
23" to the bottom of the frame
12.5" to the diff's with 5 pounds in the tires
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Old August 18th, 2008, 05:23 PM   #60
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shocks and springs are 70% effective at 45 degrees as they are at 90 degrees to perpendicular of travel.

you can compensate for up to about 45 degrees but anything more than that and you're not going to get it dialed in like it should be. anything within 20 degrees or so of perpendicular to the direction of travel is usually not noticable unless you are searching for 100% of the shocks/springs abilities.

the problem that we get into most of the time is that the stroke of the axle never cams over and acts on the spring perpendicular so nomatter how well you get it set up you pretty much are not going to get into a progressive compression against the spring/shock, it is always digressive where as it compresses you go at more of an angle from perpendicular you loose effectiveness of the shock/spring.

that last bit is pretty much on paper only and as long as you keep things closer to perpendicular it should be fine and you'll never notice the fact that it isnt geometrically perfect on paper.

Tab, if you think it is unloading too much we can talk some time. I want to see just how dialed in coilovers can be.
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