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Old October 11th, 2008, 01:08 PM   #61
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the thing is i already have the toyota. i need 3.73 and i dont understand why everyone wants disc in the rear so bad. to properly put do rear disc i would need some other new hydrolic items to get the propper breaking distribution, which just equals more money.

which is stronger the 8.8 or the toyota 8"? please dont point out that the explorer ring gear is almost an inch bigger.
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Old October 11th, 2008, 02:14 PM   #62
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the thing is i already have the toyota. i need 3.73 and i dont understand why everyone wants disc in the rear so bad. to properly put do rear disc i would need some other new hydrolic items to get the propper breaking distribution, which just equals more money.

which is stronger the 8.8 or the toyota 8"? please dont point out that the explorer ring gear is almost an inch bigger.
The disk brakes give you more stopping power than drums would. as far as which one is stronger, i couldn't tell you off the top of my head but there is a write up on both axles here on the site, check the axle tech section and the axle tech FAQs. Those should give you the info that your looking for.
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Old October 11th, 2008, 07:21 PM   #63
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http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=1025 8"

http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=719 8.8"
got bored so i thought i would give ya some quick reference
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Old October 12th, 2008, 12:09 AM   #64
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lookin good so far im surprised i never came across this earlier, also surprised to see another muskegon Person with an RBV. let me know if you need some help working on your stuff i know a fair amount and always glad to lend a hand.
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Old October 12th, 2008, 12:52 AM   #65
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i would go with the 8.8 you can find them pretty cheap you can get them here at the u-pull yard for 93$ doesn't matter the gears or anything
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Old October 12th, 2008, 01:10 AM   #66
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After reading the links posted by bronco351 i think the info says that the stock Ford 8.8" is stronger, overall, than the Toyota 8" but i am no expert either.
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i've never heard of anyone break the explorer 8.8 either
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Old October 12th, 2008, 01:23 AM   #68
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neither have i. but i have heard of people breaking dana 44s alot. come to think of it front axles break alot more often, alot more links in the chain, more room for a weak one
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but then you get chromoly shafts and they hold up better lol
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neither have i. but i have heard of people breaking dana 44s alot. come to think of it front axles break alot more often, alot more links in the chain, more room for a weak link.
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Those 8.8s are rather beefy axles, they were/ are also used in fullsize trucks, broncos, and in F-150s which if i am not mistaken still use the 8.8 today. The fullsize and explorer 8.8s are different but do share the same differential. Anyone could break a dana 44 and do it rather easily, big enough tires and enough skinny pedal in the wrong situation could snap it.

Personally, i would save up some cash, get an 8.8, get it set up and ready to run, but also upgrade your front axle. That dana 28 is quite a weakling among axles. An explorer dana 35 will pretty much bolt right in and give you quite an upgrade, or you could save up even more and swap in a solid axle like an XJ dana 30 for example, same bolt pattern, it's a relatively cheap axle, and from what i have read it's not overly weak and you could easily upgrade it.
You may be able to pick up an 8.8 and a front axle, priced together for under $350 easily. It's all the little things that will nickle and dime you to death though.
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I already have a Dana 35 up front. According to some sources they began manufactureing the broncos with the dana 35s in november of 89. mine was made in April of 89. from the looks of it one of the previous owners swapped in the dana 35, the entire frame and enything bolted to it is rusty except the radious arm brackets/crossmember and the axle pivot brackets. i dont plan on upgrading to a new axle any time soon, i am really starting to understand the ttb system. switching over to a solid alxe would require alot more reading to understand the princapels of solid axle sespensions. my rear axle has two springs and a drive, shaft front end is alot more complex.
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true that. But you could aslo simplify the front suspension by doing SAS with leaf springs instead of coils, which is also cheaper.
the TTB is not a terrible system, but no where near the best either.
I would go out on a limb and say that solid axle suspension are not really that complicated. You end up with a single piece tie rod, and a track bar, where as teh TTb has no track bar and 2 tie rods. It's all about geometry basically.
but to each their own, some people keep the TTB on their Fords while others swap over to a solid axle.
Good, the d35 is by far a better axle than the d28. to tell for sure, d35 has 10 bolts on the diff and a d28 has 12.
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I checked the bolts about 20 minutes after i baught it. and i am sure it is a real dana 35 because the hybrid 35/28 does not have the reinforcing ribs on the pig. the regular D35 does.

I think complicated was the wrong word. different would better describe it. i dont know trac bars, panhard bars, 3link and 4 link. i have heard of them i just dont know how they work and why you need them in the front but not in the back.
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you can run 3 and 4 links in the back and many people do with the 4 link being more popular from what i have seen. 3 and 4 link is not neccesary but it's an option. a Trac bar helps to hold your axle so you dont screw up a driveshaft. I know it has other purposes but i'm having a brain fart right now.
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a Trac bar helps to hold your axle so you dont screw up a driveshaft
It keeps the axle centered under the vehicle, so you can go straight and steer. not so much driveshaft issues Edit- i have heard of the double cardens not being too happy w/ axle misalignment

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It keeps the axle centered under the vehicle, so you can go straight and steer. not so much driveshaft issues
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i see but why dont you need one in the rear then?
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rears are leaf sprung and are kept centered by the leaves.
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thats what i was thinking. so you dont have anything like that on the front of your bronco?

does anybody have a grill guard that will fit my bronco?
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