A little background here. My friend works for a rather large company that is non union. Anyway he has been written up for Harrasement for telling a fellow co worker on their own private time to goggle search another co worker whom has a rather colorful past we will say. Anyhow once this guy did search and find info on the colorful background guy he and another coworker proceeded to razz the colorful background guy. The guy getting razzed makes a complaint against my friend for the other two razzing him. So in turn my friend gets written up. Does this sound just? Mind you the other two get nothing said to them since they are "boys" with the colorful background guy.
So a few months go by and then one day a note appers on the colorful background guys car asking him not to park where he does. And my friend says he simply walked up to read the note and took a pic of it. Well they review the video tape and it shows my friend walk up to the car and his hands come out of his pockets and then he walks away. Video is not real clear but they say he placed the note on the car then. So in turn suspended my buddy. Is it against the law to place a note on a car? I just want to get others thoughts and hopefully a HR experts opinion on this. Because the whole time the bosses are telling my friend they dont want HR involved. Sounds kinda fishy to me. Should he call HR himself? Or sit back and just let it go?
Btw the company is known to be strict and has purple and orange colors in their logo.
Sounds like your buddy is an idiot. Based on the hr training I've received over the last ten years I'd inform your buddy to mind his own business and quit acting like a retard.
your "buddy" started the ball rolling. now he's angry that the ball is rolling over him.
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES but he shoulda thought about the implications at the start.
when you spit venom some of it usually splatters back on you.
Lol I just sent him a link to the Michigan at will employment law. I am actually kind of entertained by busting his bubble with everything I find either thru you all or online. He just keeps saying that everyone is against him. And to top it off he text me while typing this that the lawyer he contacted said there is not anything they can do to help him.
Update: dumb dumb told his supervisor when he got in last night that he hired a lawyer. From what his text said this am when I got up for work they called him a hour or two after he left and asked him to come back to work. He said he went back up and security escorted him to his locker then off the property. Lol in the same text ask if I can see about getting him a job with me . Nice guy but damn is he silly.
sounds lie it's time to cut the apron strings and let your "friend" stand on his own two feet. also, you don't appear to be aiding him by egging him on with your feedback to him on the "case".
back away....back away.
the more you feed him the more you will get sucked into HIS problem.
Sounds like they found a reason to get rid of him. He's probably done other stupid shit and this is the one that will stick. HR is there for themselves first, the company second, customers third, and employees a distant fourth. The bosses are trying to CYA themselves and anything verbal your friend has with them isn't worth the paper it is written on. It's not going to hurt to ask HR but at the same time it might be worth just asking them about outplacement services since his time there is likely numbered and I'm sure this incident is going to haunt him for the rest of his time there. Everything needs to be in writing. Otherwise, HR needs to be in place or on the phone.
HR is pretty easy to work with normally but keep in mind most of the people in HR couldn't get a job anywhere else. Think about it this way: would you want to get paid $30-50k a year to listen to problems all day from people that are usually calculating how to bend everything in their favor? So keep that in mind when working with HR... polite, succinct, and factual.
HR is pretty easy to work with normally but keep in mind most of the people in HR couldn't get a job anywhere else. Think about it this way: would you want to get paid $30-50k a year to listen to problems all day from people that are usually calculating how to bend everything in their favor? So keep that in mind when working with HR... polite, succinct, and factual.
Sad update: woke up this am to a vm from his wife. He hung himself last night. May not have have been the smartest guy, but was a nice guy to me and others that i knew. Suicide is a cowardly act so its hard to feel bad for him. I feel for his 2 kids and wife. I guess you never know what your future holds.
Sorry for your loss. Any go fund me page or funeral arrangements yet? A friend from high school lost her brother to suicide many years ago and now she volunteers helping people find grief counceling as well as prevention help (too late for that). This maybe beneficial for the kids.
Spoke with his wife for a while today. She said he had been in what she thought was just winter blues since just before Christmas. She said that recently he started closing off from her. And he wasn't spending much time with the family. When she asked him what was bothering him she said he told her nothing was bothering him. She finally told him something is not right and he told her he was having trouble with the death of his father ( who had passed over the summer). She said that she knew he was deeply saddened with that. She never thought this would have happened. As far as funeral and stuff goes she knew he wanted to be cremated and his ashes spread in breast bay. (He was a huge walleye fisherman). Another friend of his works at a crematorium. And he has gotten his bosses blessing to provide service to her. She said that they have life insurance (but I think its null and void for suicide but i am no expert). She right now is blaming herself. Shes a nurse and said she should have pickup on his issues more than she did. I wish he would have seeked help if for nothing more than his family.
A little background here. My friend works for a rather large company that is non union. Anyway he has been written up for Harrasement for telling a fellow co worker on their own private time to goggle search another co worker whom has a rather colorful past we will say. Anyhow once this guy did search and find info on the colorful background guy he and another coworker proceeded to razz the colorful background guy. The guy getting razzed makes a complaint against my friend for the other two razzing him. So in turn my friend gets written up. Does this sound just? Mind you the other two get nothing said to them since they are "boys" with the colorful background guy.
So a few months go by and then one day a note appers on the colorful background guys car asking him not to park where he does. And my friend says he simply walked up to read the note and took a pic of it. Well they review the video tape and it shows my friend walk up to the car and his hands come out of his pockets and then he walks away. Video is not real clear but they say he placed the note on the car then. So in turn suspended my buddy. Is it against the law to place a note on a car? I just want to get others thoughts and hopefully a HR experts opinion on this. Because the whole time the bosses are telling my friend they dont want HR involved. Sounds kinda fishy to me. Should he call HR himself? Or sit back and just let it go?
Btw the company is known to be strict and has purple and orange colors in their logo.
Sad update: woke up this am to a vm from his wife. He hung himself last night. May not have have been the smartest guy, but was a nice guy to me and others that i knew. Suicide is a cowardly act so its hard to feel bad for him. I feel for his 2 kids and wife. I guess you never know what your future holds.
Are you sure the "colorful guy" didn't "take care" of this jokester for razzing him?
You should probably warn that other guy that did the goggle search he's next.
Or try to get the coworkers of that "other guy" to mess with him to get him paranoid for a bit.
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