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Old February 18th, 2008, 01:09 PM   #1
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Sermon on Homosexuality

It's a Sermon from a Paster named Noel Heikkinen at RiverView Church in Holt, MI.
I thought it was a very good view from the Christian Perspective.
I challange you to listen to it before you Post anything .
This is NOT a Homosexual Bashing thread.
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Old February 18th, 2008, 01:14 PM   #2
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i thought homosexuality was common in the church?
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...072scuba1.html
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gays are going to hell
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Old February 18th, 2008, 01:23 PM   #4
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Old February 18th, 2008, 01:59 PM   #6
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I challange you to listen to it before you Post anything .
Did you guys listen to it? I somehow doubt it because you've not given any indication that you have.
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Old February 18th, 2008, 02:02 PM   #7
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Did you guys listen to it? I somehow doubt it because you've not given any indication that you have.
listen to what?
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Old February 18th, 2008, 02:06 PM   #8
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Did you guys listen to it? I somehow doubt it because you've not given any indication that you have.
drunks can change homo's can change homo fobes can change...evil kids can change..
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I highly doubt you listened to it before you posted your first repsonse though....It was like 10 min after I posted it. IT's a like 40-60 min deal?

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The link to the sermon I posted in the frist thread. Did you listen to it?

Nowwere does he say that God Hates fags. Or anything like the sort. Proof that you didn't.
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I know my god, and i know that he hates homosexuals. maybe you better get in touch with him.
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As a rule, I typically stay out of the religion chat on this site. I come here for the 4x4 banter.

That being said, I am glad I listened to all 40+ mins of this. I liked it a lot.

Too many times, "Christians" get in the way of other peoples relationships with God. We are all broken people, wrestling with sin.

My relationship with Jesus will focus on my own sin. Everyone else needs to come to their own individual terms. I am in no place to tell you that your sin is greater then my own.

Good stuff. Thanks.
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I know my god, and i know that he hates homosexuals. maybe you better get in touch with him.

Why would I get in touch with any other God besides the One true God? Because the one you're talking about doesn't sound like my(One true) God.

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As a rule, I typically stay out of the religion chat on this site. I come here for the 4x4 banter.

That being said, I am glad I listened to all 40+ mins of this. I liked it a lot.

Too many times, "Christians" get in the way of other peoples relationships with God. We are all broken people, wrestling with sin.

My relationship with Jesus will focus on my own sin. Everyone else needs to come to their own individual terms. I am in no place to tell you that your sin is greater then my own.

Good stuff. Thanks.
You're welcome. I thought the same thing when I heard it that sunday.

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Why would I get in touch with any other God besides the One true God? Because the one you're talking about doesn't sound like my(One true) God.
Well my lord and master zeus will give those dirty homo's a lightning bolt in the ass. i am going to sacrifice a goat this weekend and ask him to do the same to you.
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I highly doubt you listened to it before you posted your first repsonse though....It was like 10 min after I posted it. IT's a like 40-60 min deal?


The link to the sermon I posted in the frist thread. Did you listen to it?

Nowwere does he say that God Hates fags. Or anything like the sort. Proof that you didn't.
i was listining to it when i posted my firs response
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Not a bad sermon, thanks for sharing that. It takes time to realize that all sin is the same in God's eyes.
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Old February 18th, 2008, 04:03 PM   #16
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Oh, well sorry then. What'd ya think?
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WOW!

Picketing against any group-LAMBE!
Twisting the words of the bible-BAD!!
Pastors leading homosexuals to God-Questionable!!!


A few years back in Spring Lake, Mi. A christian reformed church got the boot from the main christian reformed church governing body. It was all over accepting homosexuals into the church, and the toleration of their beliefs and practices.
My question is, does god differentiate betwen the "born gays" and the "I wanna put it in yer butt this week gays". Seems like the first have better ground than the latter. IMHO
Good luck; I think, to the fags.
God bless us all!!
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WOW!

Picketing against any group-LAMBE!
Twisting the words of the bible-BAD!!
Pastors leading homosexuals to God-Questionable!!!


A few years back in Spring Lake, Mi. A christian reformed church got the boot from the main christian reformed church governing body. It was all over accepting homosexuals into the church, and the toleration of their beliefs and practices.
My question is, does god differentiate betwen the "born gays" and the "I wanna put it in yer butt this week gays". Seems like the first have better ground than the latter. IMHO
Good luck; I think, to the fags.
God bless us all!!
You know Mikey,..............you never make a statement witout us knowing exactly how you feel.:tonka::tonka::tonka:
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Old February 21st, 2008, 01:43 PM   #20
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WOW!

Picketing against any group-LAMBE!
Twisting the words of the bible-BAD!!
Pastors leading homosexuals to God-Questionable!!!


A few years back in Spring Lake, Mi. A christian reformed church got the boot from the main christian reformed church governing body. It was all over accepting homosexuals into the church, and the toleration of their beliefs and practices.
My question is, does god differentiate betwen the "born gays" and the "I wanna put it in yer butt this week gays". Seems like the first have better ground than the latter. IMHO
Good luck; I think, to the fags.
God bless us all!!
Yeah, the same thing is happening in the United Methodist church right now. Kind of. It's more on letting homosexuals be Pastors. I'm not even sure on were I stand on that one. It's sad, and just one way Satan is using differences, and sin, to rip apart the body of Christ

I don't see why this would be questionable? They are still children of God. Like what The pastor said in the Sermon, the sin of Homosexuality was not the only sin listed when it's braught up. Adultery is one of those sins and I know plenty of Men that struggle with Porn. SHould it be questionable to bring them to God as well?

LIke I said before, I don't think he sees any difference. All he sees is one of his Creations that is in Sin. Just like you or I. The difference is what do you (or I) Live for. I can honestly say that if those people living for God then they would let him work in thier life to get rid of that sin. Just like any sin.

I'm not trying to sound condeming or condecending or anything. I'm just figuring out what you guys (or Guy in this case) think.
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