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Old January 8th, 2008, 02:17 PM   #141
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so just what does tire size have to do with air shocks? overheating? I'm pretty sure you have never run air shocks....... dont spread rumors

the only time mine have ever been "hot" was running the dunes for 45 minutes working the suspension really hard.... I'd venture a guess that they were no hotter than a standard shock would have been.

no, they are not as effecient or effective as coilovers and/or triple bypass shocks in the desert but they do what they were designed to do very well.





if they really are then what the hell are they doing holding up the truck? airshocks with fake bypass tubes welded on? I cant see the diameter of the shaft very well in the pic to be sure...

my 37" maxxis tires are 37.0" :tonka:


Hey, didn't you used to own a set of 37" iroks? Didn't you try to return them?
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Old January 8th, 2008, 02:20 PM   #142
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what does tire size have to do with air shocks? i havent owned air shocks, but i have driven them a bit. they are great for their application, but that application is not a 10,000lbs rig with 2500lbs of unsprung weight. bombing around on the cali freeways at speed would overheat air shocks in very short order.
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Old January 8th, 2008, 02:32 PM   #143
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Hey, didn't you used to own a set of 37" iroks? Didn't you try to return them?
owned them and so did my dad, busyfixn now owns them... I'm not sure if I tried to return them or not, I might have but I know I didnt pursue it much.... just not worth it in the end since there was nothing else close in a 17" wheel.


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what does tire size have to do with air shocks? i havent owned air shocks, but i have driven them a bit. they are great for their application, but that application is not a 10,000lbs rig with 2500lbs of unsprung weight. bombing around on the cali freeways at speed would overheat air shocks in very short order.
on a 2.0" SAW they are good for i believe 900lbs of sprung weight per corner, or not enough for a big old truck. 2 per corner is sufficient, my bet is they are used for the simplicity to raise and lower the truck quickly for ghey truck shows.

my dad runs his truck on the road at highway speeds for hours at a time and has never had any of the effects of an "overheated" or even hot shock, I dont see how moving 3" at 70 is harder (more friction) on the shock than moving 12" at 40.....

hosejockey and alumcj taering it up at the dunes on crappy airshocks

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Old January 8th, 2008, 02:52 PM   #144
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wow, someone needs to clean the sand out of their vagina...........
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Old January 8th, 2008, 04:04 PM   #145
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I hate to do this, but I have to agree with CC on this one.

You should not have to research a company to see if the ads they place in EVERY offroad mag. are true.
In my business (floor covering) if I sell a customer 1/2 pad, it better be 1/2 thick. I have several customers that do check.
The pad companies do offer cheaper pad that has a +/-, they call it "shaved" pad.
I have taken accounts from other companies that use that pad and didn't tell the customer.

It's total bullshit to advertise a tire size and be so far off.
What happened to the big 3 with their bullshit HP numbers on new cars? Didn't they get caught or lose in court and had to change ads?
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Old January 8th, 2008, 04:06 PM   #146
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What happened to the big 3 with their bullshit HP numbers on new cars? Didn't they get caught or lose in court and had to change ads?

I thought that was Ford with the Cobras?
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Old January 8th, 2008, 04:16 PM   #147
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I thought that was Ford with the Cobras?
Yes and they promised to make every owners engine produce that HP rating. I don't know if they did or not.
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Old January 8th, 2008, 04:18 PM   #148
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because I purchased the tires 17 days before I had them mounted :)
your lying

plain and simple and why havent you just sent them back yet so your not out your 2 grand?????????????????????

they agreed to take them back and pay shipping what else would you like them to do. your not out 2 grand you are paying 1000 dollars for a set of tires that you want and sending the other ones back when you get off your lazy ass.
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Old January 8th, 2008, 04:27 PM   #149
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your lying

plain and simple and why havent you just sent them back yet so your not out your 2 grand?????????????????????

they agreed to take them back and pay shipping what else would you like them to do. your not out 2 grand you are paying 1000 dollars for a set of tires that you want and sending the other ones back when you get off your lazy ass.
huh? I'm not out $2,000.00 right now, because I have the proper sized SX's mounted on the jeep. I'm out $1,000.00 for what I paid for my iroks, until I receive my check that is supposed to be in the mail
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Old January 8th, 2008, 04:29 PM   #150
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According to their website, a 37x14x15 mounted on a 11" rim should be 36.5" tall.

how come my 37x14x15 iroks measure UNDER 35"?

Did I get a bad batch, or something that slipped through quality control?

Isn't this false advertising? IF I wanted 35" tires, I would have purchased 35" tires.
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Old January 8th, 2008, 06:54 PM   #151
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huh? I'm not out $2,000.00 right now, because I have the proper sized SX's mounted on the jeep. I'm out $1,000.00 for what I paid for my iroks, until I receive my check that is supposed to be in the mail


it was after thanksgiving when you ordered your tires
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Old January 8th, 2008, 07:35 PM   #152
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I hate to do this, but I have to agree with CC on this one.

You should not have to research a company to see if the ads they place in EVERY offroad mag. are true.
In my business (floor covering) if I sell a customer 1/2 pad, it better be 1/2 thick. I have several customers that do check.
The pad companies do offer cheaper pad that has a +/-, they call it "shaved" pad.
I have taken accounts from other companies that use that pad and didn't tell the customer.

It's total bullshit to advertise a tire size and be so far off.
What happened to the big 3 with their bullshit HP numbers on new cars? Didn't they get caught or lose in court and had to change ads?

I agree, that it SHOULD be that way. They should be sized within 0.5", since most are available in 1" increments (there are 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 38.5, 39.5, 40, 41, 42, 44" sizes at least, in the interco lineup).

Yes, there is tolerance and component shrinkage. HOWEVER, its not like some of the 37" iroks are 35.5" and some are 37.5". They are consistantly small. There is some variation between different mounting sizes, but they do run consistantly small, and everyone knows its (except, apartantly pre-december CC).

Thre is also variation of how people measure, with many measuring from the ground to the top of tire when mounted, which is rather worthless.

However, regarding the arguement going on here, when it comes to tire sizes, it is rather easy to spend a little timeon pirate4x4 and find first hand reports of how big tire sizes ran for those iroks.
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Old January 8th, 2008, 07:42 PM   #153
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FWIW, tires diameter sizes are measured unmounted when listed to ensure air pressure and rim selection do not pose a factor in the measured size of the tire. They are also measured at room temperature since it can play a major role in the measurement of rubber especially when you get to very larger tires.

Did anyone see mythbusters on pikes peak? They had 5 miles of matchbox car track laid out and as it warmed it stretched another 2 miles in length?
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All this because his girlfriend's Jeep has bigger tires than his.
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Old January 8th, 2008, 08:38 PM   #155
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FWIW, tires diameter sizes are measured unmounted when listed to ensure air pressure and rim selection do not pose a factor in the measured size of the tire. They are also measured at room temperature since it can play a major role in the measurement of rubber especially when you get to very larger tires.

Did anyone see mythbusters on pikes peak? They had 5 miles of matchbox car track laid out and as it warmed it stretched another 2 miles in length?
DUDE... google search mythbusters, matchbox track.

the track was 1/4 mile, and it was lake tahoe that's like 1900% off...

anyone who believed it is ignorant and should have searched for 10 minutes.

find me 5 threads that say the track was in pikes peak and 5 miles long
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FWIW, tires diameter sizes are measured unmounted when listed to ensure air pressure and rim selection do not pose a factor in the measured size of the tire. They are also measured at room temperature since it can play a major role in the measurement of rubber especially when you get to very larger tires.

Did anyone see mythbusters on pikes peak? They had 5 miles of matchbox car track laid out and as it warmed it stretched another 2 miles in length?
Also, tires get bigger when you mount them... they aren't measured unmounted...
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they are mounted on the recommended rim size and inflated to the max inflation pressure and then the measurements are taken.

shrink factor is not a black art either, it is a calculation based on many factors like durometer (or density of the material), temperature and pressure between when it is injected and what it will be in the open atmosphere. maybe interco hires the flunkey engineers who got D's to design their tires
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Old January 9th, 2008, 01:21 PM   #158
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they are mounted on the recommended rim size and inflated to the max inflation pressure and then the measurements are taken.

and when you did this you came up with 36.75 if im not mistaken
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and when you did this you came up with 36.75 if im not mistaken
34.75"
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Wow seriously? your still pulling sand out of your vagina over this issue?
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