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Old January 8th, 2008, 02:11 PM   #1
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My in-laws are building a new house. My father in law wants to put in an entertainment room. He had the room wired for surround sound and an overhead projector if he decides on one. He has asked me to help him decide on what to do in the room.

It is a big-assed room in a walk out basement. It has drywall walls and ceiling. The entertainment area will be on one half of the room with your back to the sliding patio doors. All I have is wires sticking out of the wall where the speakers will go, where the overhead projector could go, and it all terminates in a closet under the stairs that is designed to mount all the hardware.

Now I have not measured the area where the monitor will go yet, but it could be pretty big. What would be best to use as a monitor? Projector? Something mounted on the wall? Anyone have any hook-ups in the industry?

Keep in mind that price is a consideration. He is willing to shell out, but not for the new Panasonic 150" plasma screen..

I would like to be able to give him a few options and see what he says. I know a few of you are into the audio/video thing.

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Old January 8th, 2008, 02:20 PM   #2
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i dont like projectors. they seem to dim to me, i like a bright screen, just from going to buffilow wild wings and seeing their projectors there. who knows mabey theirs are crap and you can buy better ones.
but it does seem like projecters would be a tad cheper if you have to set up for it
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Old January 8th, 2008, 02:37 PM   #3
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first mistake was to place the screen or monitor across from a big window. You will have tons of reflections off the screen or off the monitor face. You will need to use drapes or something to cut the light from the sliding door.
If you go with a projector, the more lumens the better and the bigger the contrast ratio the better. Remember you will have to include a seperate tuner if you go with a projector too.

Personally, I would put a projector in there. It's a basement and the light should be easy enough to control.
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I set up my parents with a Sony projector and 100" fixed mount Da-Lite screen. There's is a dedicated room though. It works great, I think for the money you could get some good window coverings and make it a dark room when needed and get a great picture.



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first mistake was to place the screen or monitor across from a big window. You will have tons of reflections off the screen or off the monitor face. You will need to use drapes or something to cut the light from the sliding door.
I know, that's why I mentioned it. The way the house is set up, there really was no choice. There are doors on both side walls, and the wall the screen is going on is pretty far from the doors and there is a deck over the doors. I will get some measurements, but the room is huge.


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I'd put heavy, dark curtains over the door. Paint the walls a dark color. To save money, I would just paint a white square on the wall. I have seen some projectors with nice pictures done like this.

Projectors give you alot of screen for the money, and I have heard nothing but good things about the picture quality of the new HD projectors.
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I'd put heavy, dark curtains over the door. Paint the walls a dark color. To save money, I would just paint a white square on the wall. I have seen some projectors with nice pictures done like this.

Projectors give you alot of screen for the money, and I have heard nothing but good things about the picture quality of the new HD projectors.
He had the wall where the screen will go painted dark, and about 10' into the room. the rest of the room is a beige color. Next time I am out there I will get a few pictures (actually I should check my camera, I may have some from Christmas).

I was thinking of framing an area on the wall like at BW3.

I know someone that had problems with a bigger flat screen TV. Is there reliability issues with them? how about compared to the projectors?
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I wouldn't do anything until you figure out where the stripper pole is going to be. The colored spotlights and disco ball might get in the way of the projector.
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I wouldn't do anything until you figure out where the stripper pole is going to be. The colored spotlights and disco ball might get in the way of the projector.
Good thought..
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I have a 11' x 14' basement room with a Panny AE900U HD LCD projector and love it. There are no windows so I get a pretty good picture. LCD projectors do not have good blacks, but colors are vibrant. Do not buy a DaLite screen, make your own using Plastex water proof sheets. 2 4' x 8' pieces (one ripped), some luan and 2x2's I made a pretty nice looking screen for $50. The Plastex company in Mishawaka, IN (I believe) now makes a 5x8 sheet for all the do it yourselfers so you do not have to piece a screen together. You can pick it up at the factory. You also can get screen goo and paint a wall, but make sure that the wall is perfect (no seams, nails, etc) before doing it.

I have my screen set at 12 (foot) diagonal and love the picture.
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I have a 11' x 14' basement room with a Panny AE900U HD LCD projector and love it. There are no windows so I get a pretty good picture. LCD projectors do not have good blacks, but colors are vibrant. Do not buy a DaLite screen, make your own using Plastex water proof sheets. 2 4' x 8' pieces (one ripped), some luan and 2x2's I made a pretty nice looking screen for $50. The Plastex company in Mishawaka, IN (I believe) now makes a 5x8 sheet for all the do it yourselfers so you do not have to piece a screen together. You can pick it up at the factory. You also can get screen goo and paint a wall, but make sure that the wall is perfect (no seams, nails, etc) before doing it.

I have my screen set at 12 (foot) diagonal and love the picture.
Thanks, I was hoping someone knew what to make the screen out of!
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Some pictures of what I put together for ideas
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Wow! That's a man-room there!

I called and the room is approximately 25' wide and 32' deep. the seats will be at about 15-18' from the wall. The wires are set up so the projector will be at approximately 15' from the wall (they are hanging from the ceiling).

What kind of sound equipment should I be looking at? Just any surround sound? Are there any stores left that have home entertainment systems set up?

What about projectors? My neighbor got a great deal on a last years model.

Damn, I haven't checked into this type of stuff since Dolby was the big thing..
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If you are in a dark enough room, you can go with an overhead. Most of the DLP projectors now can hold up pretty good to the light - but not well to sunlight.

Another thought is ... Some of these projectors come with a jumper configuration so you can do rear projection. If you have the space, you can setup a projector room in behind.

Sound 5.1 is ok. BUT!

Yamaha has a nice receiver (RX-V3800) I am looking at picking up that is 7.1 (MUCH better). If you look at Yamaha, stay RXV series at minimum.

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/avreceiver...&CNTYP=PRODUCT

Some points to check on the 3800 is it processes both audio and video, all HDMI, YPAO for auto EQ/white noise calibration, and 3 possible zones (rooms).

I did professional sound systems at one time and compared Denon to Yamaha in a private session. The result was the Denon sounded better - but not for the price difference. I found that Yamaha had more features and the quality was a very close second to Denon.
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