Light wiegth Trailer - Page 4 - Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest

Go Back   Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > 4x4 Talk > Tow rigs and trailers
GL4x4 Live! GL4x4 Casino

greatlakes4x4.com is the premier All Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Search
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old January 2nd, 2008, 09:06 PM   #61
jmdzuk
Senior Member
 
jmdzuk's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-20-05
Location: Lowell MI
Posts: 2,572
iTrader: (13)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sodapop View Post
Out of curiosity, where are you finding all of these pics? just general internet searching or a thread from another forum?
off P.
jmdzuk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 2nd, 2008, 09:27 PM   #62
whiterhino
I'm not old, honest...
 
whiterhino's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-07-06
Location: Davisburg MI
Posts: 20,972
iTrader: (21)
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brods View Post
Whiterino, what did you tow the single axle trailer with? If in doubt I tend to go heavy on the tongue weight and it has apparently worked so far. Sounds like your setup was a bit finicky. Maybe a WDH would have helped. I’ve never used one, but guys that have tend to swear by them.
hahaha.... a bit finicky? I did the math for you. I also explained that by moving equipment around it affected the tongue weight significantly.

I towed that setup with 3 different vehicles. My 77 F150 extended cab 8 ft bed pickup, my father in law's full size 80 Bronco and his 24ft motorhome. The tow vehicle is not EVER the issue with sway UNLESS it is too short. It is the trailer setup.

Didn't have a WDH back then. As said earlier it would probably have helped. This would compensate for the extra tongue weight you suggest.


I like the low slung dual axle trailers shown.

Last edited by whiterhino; January 3rd, 2008 at 08:36 AM.
whiterhino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 2nd, 2008, 09:28 PM   #63
kickstand
sHaMoNe!
 
kickstand's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-20-06
Location: fenton
Posts: 30,880
iTrader: (46)
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sodapop View Post
Out of curiosity, where are you finding all of these pics? just general internet searching or a thread from another forum?
most of those pictures are coming from www.pirate4x4.com its a message board similar to this one, have you seen it?
kickstand is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 2nd, 2008, 09:32 PM   #64
whiterhino
I'm not old, honest...
 
whiterhino's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-07-06
Location: Davisburg MI
Posts: 20,972
iTrader: (21)
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmdzuk View Post

Although most of the pics look good, neither of these look real good. Both tow vehicles are squatting in the rear and the trailer is tilted back a little indicating not much tongue weight. I would suspect they are balanced fairly light in the front to compensate for weak tow rig springs.

The Zuk is especially scarey with the short wheelbase of the tow rig.
whiterhino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 2nd, 2008, 09:33 PM   #65
jmdzuk
Senior Member
 
jmdzuk's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-20-05
Location: Lowell MI
Posts: 2,572
iTrader: (13)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

If you google light weight trailers this what you get .Search Pirate and come up with something more applicable.




Jeff
jmdzuk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 2nd, 2008, 09:35 PM   #66
jmdzuk
Senior Member
 
jmdzuk's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-20-05
Location: Lowell MI
Posts: 2,572
iTrader: (13)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by whiterhino View Post

I like the low slung dual axle trailers shown.



What was the date I cant make it out
jmdzuk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 2nd, 2008, 09:38 PM   #67
jmdzuk
Senior Member
 
jmdzuk's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-20-05
Location: Lowell MI
Posts: 2,572
iTrader: (13)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by whiterhino View Post
Although most of the pics look good, neither of these look real good. Both tow vehicles are squatting in the rear and the trailer is tilted back a little indicating not much tongue weight. I would suspect they are balanced fairly light in the front to compensate for weak tow rig springs.

The Zuk is especially scarey with the short wheelbase of the tow rig.
I think the 2nd one is more of a poser shot .
The first one looks like its is on the side of the high way next to a ramp .Maybe the driver got out to clean his shorts.:tonka:
jmdzuk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 2nd, 2008, 09:42 PM   #68
Renegade II
Coil springs are for pens
 
Renegade II's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-30-06
Location: Frankenmuth, Mi.
Posts: 3,313
iTrader: (13)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Haggar View Post
A classic example of missing the point. Not everyone wants to spend $40k+ plus to 'save' money at the pump. Or wants to DD a 3/4 ton. And down here where I live, you don't get 20mpg driving a diesel 3/4 ton. And as detailed in the other thread, I know I've got 10mpg in my V10 while my buddies cummins got 14. That'd save me $250 a year in towing (again, for a $6000+ option)....


The average person in this hobby seems to think bigger is better. And that works fine for most. Some people like to think outside the box. To each his own.

The world seems to survive just fine with 4000lb boat trailers on a single axle.
I didn't 'miss the point' and I do get 'to each his own' that's why I stated "I guess if you have a specific little lightweight 4x4......... :chiefwoohaw::chiefwoohaw::chiefwoohaw:"

My used, well maintained, standard cab, SRW, 4x4 1st gen Cummins was $2k not $40k+. Much cheaper than my time & materials are worth to build a smaller, purpose built trailer under the guise of 'MPG'. That's where I was coming from on that. And I didn't get the Detroit for the MPG, it was the only engine available.

If you want a purpose built special trailer to accent a neat little rig or are doing it 'just to do it', that's just skippy, great 'cool factor' go for it that kind of stuff is real neat. But negligible MPG savings over buying a good used trailer for cheaper than time & materials to build one really shouldn't be the factor (as Hagggar so eliquently pointed out above in his spending more to save a little statement). Some of those pictured are pretty neat. I like the two axle one with the suspension that's towed by the Safari mini-van. I once saw a modified M105 trailer that had a flat fender on it, very cheap, single axle and heavy duty.

Good luck with the trailer, post pics when you start the build

edit: I just noticed that Hagggar spelled properly changes to Jesus :tonka:

Last edited by Renegade II; January 2nd, 2008 at 09:47 PM.
Renegade II is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 2nd, 2008, 10:09 PM   #69
Roadhouse
DrivewayJeeper
 
Roadhouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Sanford
Posts: 10,956
iTrader: (5)
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by UP_ROKTOY View Post
most of those pictures are coming from www.pirate4x4.com its a message board similar to this one, have you seen it?
what a dick
Roadhouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 3rd, 2008, 05:53 AM   #70
whiterhino
I'm not old, honest...
 
whiterhino's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-07-06
Location: Davisburg MI
Posts: 20,972
iTrader: (21)
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmdzuk View Post



What was the date I cant make it out
Oct 81
whiterhino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 3rd, 2008, 08:18 AM   #71
jmdzuk
Senior Member
 
jmdzuk's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-20-05
Location: Lowell MI
Posts: 2,572
iTrader: (13)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by whiterhino View Post
Oct 81
I was 9
jmdzuk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 3rd, 2008, 08:19 AM   #72
kickstand
sHaMoNe!
 
kickstand's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-20-06
Location: fenton
Posts: 30,880
iTrader: (46)
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by whiterhino View Post
Oct 81
I was 13 months :tonka:
kickstand is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 3rd, 2008, 09:49 AM   #73
Haggar
Covered in mud...
 
Haggar's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: Oxford, MI
Posts: 17,598
iTrader: (55)
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade II View Post
I didn't 'miss the point' and I do get 'to each his own' that's why I stated "I guess if you have a specific little lightweight 4x4......... :chiefwoohaw::chiefwoohaw::chiefwoohaw:"

My used, well maintained, standard cab, SRW, 4x4 1st gen Cummins was $2k not $40k+. Much cheaper than my time & materials are worth to build a smaller, purpose built trailer under the guise of 'MPG'. That's where I was coming from on that. And I didn't get the Detroit for the MPG, it was the only engine available.
:

Hehehe, that explains a lot. Some folks don't want to daily drive a 16 year old truck with less horsepower than a honda 4 cyl every day, or have a tow rig that sits 355 days a year. (I used to drive a fleet of 1st gen cummins work trucks, I would have no interest in one even as a part time tow rig)

One of the primary reasons someone builds a buggy is because they want something engineered exactly for their application, not trying to adapt a road vehicle to their purpose. I see this as an extension of that concept. A purpose built vehicle will perform better than a modified universal. Likewise with a trailer, IF you know what you are doing.

Again, to each his own. BTW, shouldn't cost more than about $750 to build a decent trailer, haven't seen a used one for $750 that didn't need just as much work and parts to make it in good shape.
Haggar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 3rd, 2008, 10:12 AM   #74
KartRacer
Blowd up
 
KartRacer's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-16-05
Location: Riverside, MI 49084
Posts: 6,335
iTrader: (4)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via AIM to KartRacer
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Haggar View Post
Hehehe, that explains a lot. Some folks don't want to daily drive a 16 year old truck with less horsepower than a honda 4 cyl every day, or have a tow rig that sits 355 days a year. (I used to drive a fleet of 1st gen cummins work trucks, I would have no interest in one even as a part time tow rig)...
It's not all about horsepower. You should know that. I know I am not everyone, but I daily drive a now 18 year old truck. It replaced my brand new truck. After a ride in it, every single person who doubted my judgment, now understands why I drive it. It is fun to drive.
KartRacer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 3rd, 2008, 10:20 AM   #75
Renegade II
Coil springs are for pens
 
Renegade II's Avatar
 
Join Date: 04-30-06
Location: Frankenmuth, Mi.
Posts: 3,313
iTrader: (13)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KartRacer View Post
It's not all about horsepower. You should know that. I know I am not everyone, but I daily drive a now 18 year old truck. It replaced my brand new truck. After a ride in it, every single person who doubted my judgment, now understands why I drive it. It is fun to drive.
x2. My intercooled 91.5 was bought just to push snow, but it now gets more DD use than anything in the rest of the fleet.

This would be my pick if I did one. Nice hauler with the load slung low for aero.
Renegade II is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 3rd, 2008, 10:29 AM   #76
Monster4.0
Senior Member
 
Monster4.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-07-05
Location: Carleton
Posts: 1,585
iTrader: (7)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via Yahoo to Monster4.0
Default

The other drawback of a low slung trailer is ground clearance at a trail head. Most places have a decent parking area, but not all places.
Monster4.0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 3rd, 2008, 10:39 AM   #77
CreativeFab
used to be Ironman
 
CreativeFab's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12-01-05
Location: midland
Posts: 3,212
iTrader: (35)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

I like to tow trailers
CreativeFab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 3rd, 2008, 10:40 AM   #78
Mr. Beefy
BFT!
 
Mr. Beefy's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-11-07
Location: Sault Ste. Marie
Posts: 11,211
iTrader: (19)
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Default Simon Says:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironman View Post
I like to tow trailers
x2
Mr. Beefy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old January 3rd, 2008, 11:19 AM   #79
Roadhouse
DrivewayJeeper
 
Roadhouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Sanford
Posts: 10,956
iTrader: (5)
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade II View Post

This would be my pick if I did one. Nice hauler with the load slung low for aero.
I agree that is my favorite trailer out of the bunch.....I just wouldnt tow it with a 4.3L minivan tho'.
Roadhouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 3rd, 2008, 11:40 AM   #80
kickstand
sHaMoNe!
 
kickstand's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-20-06
Location: fenton
Posts: 30,880
iTrader: (46)
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadhouse View Post
I agree that is my favorite trailer out of the bunch.....I just wouldnt tow it with a 4.3L minivan tho'.
eh, my dad had to tow my jeep home from marquette and once from the sand dunes with our 4.3 astro. Glad I got dropped off at school and wasnt in the car for the one ride. The ride home from the dunes sucked.
kickstand is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > 4x4 Talk > Tow rigs and trailers
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:50 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright 2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
vB Ad Management by =RedTyger=
Page generated in 0.41157 seconds with 80 queries