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2001-03 Chevy Duramax 36 46.75%
2000-02 Dodge Cummins 41 53.25%
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Old December 31st, 2007, 01:00 PM   #81
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Why would you idle for 15 minutes?
And using a test lab and synthetics you can extend your oil changes. The new gassers with their dual plugs and coils are much more expensive. Diesels are penny pincher on maintenance. Even the oil filters are cheap, I don't know why.

The resale alone makes up for the extra cost, think investment.

There are so many myths about diesels, "not good if your only going to drive ten miles", extra costs. what a bunch of hoowee.

Get what you want, or when your in right lane watching the speedo drop like a two dollar whore and the reality of 7 miles per gallon sink in, you'll wish you had.
This guys right. Listen to him.

I drive a 01 Powerstroke, and I love it, but givin the choices you layed out I would go Dodge every time. Just my .02
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Old December 31st, 2007, 01:50 PM   #82
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I am not going to buy a Bigblock because I like the idea of being able to sell this truck in a few more years. It is hard enough to move my 98' gasser right now. It's more the market then the fact it is a gasser, I looked a ton of trucks before going with a new one, many are still for sale. I think the resale on Diesels is going to fall soon, espescially with all the fuel, emissions, and regulations crap.

My 98' gets 11mpg around town and about 13mpg on the highway. I only have been averaging about 7-9mpg towning 10 hours away through mountains and rolling hills. The biggest down side is not the mileage but the lack of power to maintain speed. I dont think you will get much better mileage in a diesel, but you will have the power you are looking for.

I am not worried about cost of repairs, cost of maintaning or having to work on it. I am pretty sure I am capable of that.

It's pretty simple, I have weighed the advantages or disadvantages of having a deisel and I have decided to buy a deisel truck. I plan to tow out west, tow for 16-20 hours to do some wheeling and I am not going to do that in a gasser.
Your right, with a 350, 5.3 etc or any small gas motor you are not going to do that.

Towing with my truck '07 5.3 liter anything more then 6 hours with a jeep behind it would get old, or I would have to go 60 mph.

For long trips and medium to heavy loads a diesel or a big block make the trip SO much more enjoyable.

Since the choices are not big block or diesel, the choices are diesel to diesel. I would recommend getting the better truck.

The engine is only one component of the truck, the dodge wins that in general. The cummins is just plain good. The duramax is good, but not as common.

The tranny comes next, stick or auto? If dodge, you probably should go stick, if chevy you must go allison. However even the allisons where out and fail.

IFS or Straight axle? At this point the only thing in my opinion that matters is outers, your never going to ask your truck to do anything that would break the ring and pinion, its a tow rig. Which wheel bearings and brakes and ball joints and half shafts/axle shafts are more serviceable and tend to last longer? How important is ride quality?

Beyond those 3 components which are the main mechanicals and the main failure points you come down to interior, looks, etc. Personal opinion stuff.

I like the chevy better, but I think they tend to cost a bit more.

Happy truck shopping, its fun, and frustrating all at the same time.
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Old December 31st, 2007, 01:58 PM   #83
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The current vote is 22 for Dodge and 22 for Chevy. That basically sums up where I am at. Right now I am leaning towards the Chevy, but tomarrow who knows.
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Old December 31st, 2007, 02:03 PM   #84
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I just voted Chevy because my experience leads me to believe that the Chevy will ride better on a long trip. The Cummins is a sweet engine, but I wouldn't call the dmax a turd.
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Old December 31st, 2007, 02:07 PM   #85
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go test drive a bunch of them, you'll probably make up your mind at that point.....
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Old December 31st, 2007, 02:15 PM   #86
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go test drive a bunch of them, you'll probably make up your mind at that point.....
I have been driving a 3500 duramax around in texas all last week. I have a few trucks in michigan I am going to go look at soon.
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Old December 31st, 2007, 05:50 PM   #87
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Brian, I like the interiors of the Chevy better, but I like the Cummins better. I also like the solid front axle better of the Dodge......so I voted Dodge.

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Old December 31st, 2007, 06:23 PM   #88
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Uck... less power AND no better gas mileage than a V10.
WOW, So you are getting 16-17 mpg around town with a v-10! Thats pretty good, the last v-10 I drove got 9mpg around town. Brian I'm just trying to be cool like you and I did test that Dodge today, nice truck.
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WOW, So you are getting 16-17 mpg around town with a v-10! Thats pretty good, the last v-10 I drove got 9mpg around town. Brian I'm just trying to be cool like you and I did test that Dodge today, nice truck.
Nope, just listing apples to apples. In the 8800GVWR trucks, both get 13mpg highway, 10 city, but t he V10 gets 1-2 mpg better towing. In smaller trucks, perhaps they do better. That was my personal experience, as well as the general concensus when I worked at Jeep/Truck.
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Brian, I'm not going to talk you into a gas motor and out a diesel. But towing with a 5.7L compared to a 6.0L Chevy is a night and day difference. I tow a 30 camper that weights roughly 7800lbs, with a '99 Suburban 5.7L and 3.73 gears and it struggles. My Suburban was in the shop for a new fuel pump so borrowed a buddies 2000 Chevy w/6.0L and 4.10 gears. The 6.0L towed like the camper wasn't even behind it. Both sucked fuel tho' towing.

I'd still get a diesel if I was you...just wante to bring up that point about the two Chevy engines.

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The interior in the Chevy is a lot nicer.
They styling of the Chevy is a lot nicer.
If you buy a Dodge, you will want to put stacks on it.
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Roadhouse voting for a Dodge ought to be enough to make anyone else buy a Chevy
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Damn it, That made my mind up! Dodge it is
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I've been thinking about this thread all day since I posted earlier. And I think I might change my vote. I owned a 2000 Chevy with a 5.3. It towed my Jeep OK, but anything heavier was to hard on it. That's why I bought my Stupid Duty (I call it that lovingly). The one thing I really miss about my Chevy is the interior. The seats were soooo much better than the concrete ones in my Ford, and I liked the Chevy dash layout a lot better.

Now, The reason I voted Dodge before was solely for the Cummins. Even a lot of Chevy and Ford guys will agree that the Cummins is the real badass of the three. But, like many have said before, the 'Max is no slouch. So given the ride and creature comforts of the Chevy with the respectable power of the Duramax, I think it may be the better choice.

BTW even a big block gasser is no match for my Power Stroke. I've driven them both and raced my buddy's Chevy BB uphill pulling our trail rigs. He didn't have a chance. If you pull anything heavier than a TJ, diesel is the only choice!
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Lets be realistic here, he’s a Chevy guy (and there is nothing wrong with that) so unless the Dodge is way better (which its not) he’s going to get a Chevy. Hope he sticks with the good looking 00 - 02 trucks, the 03's signal the start of Chevy’s butt ugly era.
Humm.... maybe the same Cracker Jack exterior design team that was responsible for the wildly successful Aztec also had a hand in the 03 Silverado and Avalanche styling?!?!:miff:
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i love my duramax. i have driven the new dodges and the new 08s duramaxs as well.. i like mine the best out of all of them. i love the dash the seats are soft and comfy. ive towed alot of equipment around with it already and its stock. pulls greats.. i havnt had 16 hour pulls but from different auctions and rodeos and what not ive pulled the horse trailers the race trailers.. all vary from 6500 pounds to 17k.. you notice some of the heavy loads that its there but dont even phase it one bit.
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Brian, I'm not going to talk you into a gas motor and out a diesel. But towing with a 5.7L compared to a 6.0L Chevy is a night and day difference. I tow a 30 camper that weights roughly 7800lbs, with a '99 Suburban 5.7L and 3.73 gears and it struggles. My Suburban was in the shop for a new fuel pump so borrowed a buddies 2000 Chevy w/6.0L and 4.10 gears. The 6.0L towed like the camper wasn't even behind it. Both sucked fuel tho' towing.

I'd still get a diesel if I was you...just wante to bring up that point about the two Chevy engines.
On this same note, going from a 6.0 Suburban to towing the same load with '90 Cummins truck was night and day.

If you are wanting an auto, I would say Chevrolet, Dodge otherwise.

Another note, I saw something mentioned earlier about idling. Cummins recommends not idling their engines more than five minutes I believe. It has something to do with the mass of the head. The temperature difference between the block and the head stresses the headgaskets or something.
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Old January 8th, 2008, 12:38 AM   #99
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Fwiw, depending on how picky you are with your vehicle’s handling you may want to consider the many complaints about the 2nd gen Dodge’s steering. Here is an example:
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..... I must say however,after owning a 2nd. gen for seven years and spending a small fortune trying to make it steer accurately,that the 3rd. gens,bad bj's and all are a quantum leap over the handling of the 2nd's.
From post #8: http://www.turbodieselregister.com/f...-quad-4x4.html

BTW have you decided yet?
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I am leaning towards a Durmax, but that could change if I could find a better deal on a cummins. I am probably not going to be buying until I find a good deal.
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