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Old December 12th, 2007, 08:38 AM   #21
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I've driven next to three semis this week when their retreaded tires go boo-ya then spray my car with tire shrapnel. I'm willing to be that a glass vase breaks in less pieces than one of these POS. Grrrrrrrr.....
You should stop using your heat vision next time you drive up next to a semi:miff:
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Old December 12th, 2007, 11:42 AM   #22
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The problem is when they are not checked, if the air pressure is low, or they are ran until bald thats when they go boom. Blame the cheap bastard that won't replace them.
x2 I run them. I also have maintenace done on the trailer every month that checks and records air pressure. if there is a leak or problem we fix it. I can't remember the last time a cap blew off
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Old December 12th, 2007, 11:58 AM   #23
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I also run recaps on my drive axles and have only blown 1 in 8 years and I haul heavy equipment. I only run michelin recaps, bandag blows. mudrunner
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Old December 12th, 2007, 07:01 PM   #24
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God damn it! F'ing 'nother close encounter today. WTF?!! Before I pass a semi should I use an IR thermometer and check tire temps to swag the probability of a blow-out? Unreal.
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Old December 12th, 2007, 07:07 PM   #25
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They require pre trip checks for a reason..
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They require pre trip checks for a reason..

yeah cause a pretrip is gonna predict how the tire is gonna be in 400 miles.

tire pressures change through out the entire day depending on the temp outside, how long you've driven since your last stop, and how much weight your carrying! you can never predict when a tire is gonna go, you could hit a pot hole and break a few belts and 100 miles later it blows

Its not only retreads that blow i've blown steer tires on my carhauler, i had a tire changed in Monroe at the TA and drove to cleveland and blew that exact same tire.

The best thing to do is hurry up and pass the truck and quit tailgating and quit hanging around the side of us.

And never think your gonna piss me off by hitting your breaks in front of me because i held you up for 2 minutes while i passed somebody, your the one gonna die not me
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The best thing to do is hurry up and pass the truck and quit tailgating and quit hanging around the side of us.

And never think your gonna piss me off by hitting your breaks in front of me because i held you up for 2 minutes while i passed somebody, your the one gonna die not me
That is the best thing that has been said in this whole post yet!!! It is similar to what I said.

We are not a moving highway attraction. Step on that go pedal and pass us. YOUR STATE GOVERMENT has decided that we are to unsafe to be able to drive with the speed of traffic so they restrict our speed enough so as to cause a slow moving vehicle hazard.

And go ahead and stand on the brake pedal after passing us. You will be nothing more than a bump in the road when we smack ya with 80,000# pushing us. BTM.
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yeah cause a pretrip is gonna predict how the tire is gonna be in 400 miles.

tire pressures change through out the entire day depending on the temp outside, how long you've driven since your last stop, and how much weight your carrying! you can never predict when a tire is gonna go, you could hit a pot hole and break a few belts and 100 miles later it blows

Its not only retreads that blow i've blown steer tires on my carhauler, i had a tire changed in Monroe at the TA and drove to cleveland and blew that exact same tire.

The best thing to do is hurry up and pass the truck and quit tailgating and quit hanging around the side of us.

And never think your gonna piss me off by hitting your breaks in front of me because i held you up for 2 minutes while i passed somebody, your the one gonna die not me
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That is the best thing that has been said in this whole post yet!!! It is similar to what I said.

We are not a moving highway attraction. Step on that go pedal and pass us. YOUR STATE GOVERMENT has decided that we are to unsafe to be able to drive with the speed of traffic so they restrict our speed enough so as to cause a slow moving vehicle hazard.

And go ahead and stand on the brake pedal after passing us. You will be nothing more than a bump in the road when we smack ya with 80,000# pushing us. BTM.
Both of these are true statements and I have only blown 1 cap in 7 years so that's not too bad IMO. But on the other hand there is a reason that the DOT does not allow caps on steer tires! I assume it's because of reliability but I'm not sure on their exact reasoning. Just to clear that up, the steer tires ned blew were NOT recaps they were standard "virgin" rubber!
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Dirty Jobs did an episode showing how they do it. I didn't think it looked very safe.
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yeah cause a pretrip is gonna predict how the tire is gonna be in 400 miles.

tire pressures change through out the entire day depending on the temp outside, how long you've driven since your last stop, and how much weight your carrying! you can never predict when a tire is gonna go, you could hit a pot hole and break a few belts and 100 miles later it blows

Its not only retreads that blow i've blown steer tires on my carhauler, i had a tire changed in Monroe at the TA and drove to cleveland and blew that exact same tire.

The best thing to do is hurry up and pass the truck and quit tailgating and quit hanging around the side of us.

And never think your gonna piss me off by hitting your breaks in front of me because i held you up for 2 minutes while i passed somebody, your the one gonna die not me
yeah but your still a dick well that what the guy thought that was driveing next to ya when it went:tonka::tonka:
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Old December 13th, 2007, 07:07 AM   #31
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There was a whole post on them within the last 6months I believe and someone was arguing that they were perfectly safe.
yeah, shortly after I posted venting about a 7' long section that took out my front fascia, fog light and hood...

after reading some of the viewpoints, as well as the sites suggested, the retreaded tires themselves may very well in fact be safe 'when properly maintained'.

however, that does not negate the FACT that flying 7' sections of tire carcass, and/or even smaller pieces left on the roads, and/or flying in the wake behind one of those semi-trucks is in fact not only a hazard but bad enough PR to make it an obvious blemish on the entire industry.

It's like those of you that complain about wheeling laws, then lift your daily driver's to the point of being no longer street legal, or worse violate every "tread lightly" suggestion, and/or go plowing through swamps/lakes, or over baby puppy's...

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Both of these are true statements and I have only blown 1 cap in 7 years so that's not too bad IMO. But on the other hand there is a reason that the DOT does not allow caps on steer tires! I assume it's because of reliability but I'm not sure on their exact reasoning. Just to clear that up, the steer tires ned blew were NOT recaps they were standard "virgin" rubber!
where does it say the DOT does not allow recaps on steer tires?
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where does it say the DOT does not allow recaps on steer tires?
OR running over baby puppies!!!?
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where does it say the DOT does not allow recaps on steer tires?
Federal allows them to be on steer tires of trucks but not on steer tires of busses

http://www.retread.org/PDF/SteerAxle.pdf

I thought Michigan DOT had a law, but can't find it right now.
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You are allowed to run recaps on the steers unless it is a bus. Buses are NOT allowed to run caps on the steers. I myself would not like them on the steer axle either way. BTM
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I myself would not like them on the steer axle either way. BTM
I never put them on the steer axle
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I thought it was a DOT thing not just a choice. I haven't driven for a company that allows recaps to be run on their steers. I wouldn't want one there!
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another point is tread section can come of a virgin tires also just usally not in one huge chunk.. i Have lots a 3 foot section oneday due to a big 4" chunk of concrett I asume the plow truck had a blow out blade on that one as it was from the pot hole 50 foot before it
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The reason Bandags suck, is that they are a "pre-cured" tread.
The tread comes in a box, and it get wrapped around the shaved tire casing, then the whole thing gets baked to set up the adhesive. These are the long strips of tread you will find on the highway.
I switched over to "mold cure" retreads, and tire problems stopped.
Mold cure is where the tire is shaved, then molten rubber is applied to the casing, then an electrically heated mold is clamped around the tire.
When they cool, they are shaved, so they are perfectly round.
Olson Tire in Mt. Pleasant does this, and the Hitech retreads are they same process. :chiefwoohaw:
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