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Old March 15th, 2006, 10:51 PM   #41
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Towing is like being a police officer. They only time you deal with something is when its fucking up.

How about the 100's of other ones that you don't pick up off the road that are racking up 100's of thousands of miles?

Actually, statistically speaking, depending on how many vehicles are on the road for a given model from a manufacturer... Grandman should be seeing which ones produce the most flaws.

So you take the amount of vehicles he picks up of a certain kind, and you can attempt to find the percentage of vehicles that are more prone to failure. Sure, some will go without issues (such as yours)... but the larger that failure percentage, the more you can say the worse the design.

Kind of like the '99 WJ's... lots of issues with those. Some have ones that haven't had any major issues or problems... while others have had tons. It's why when dealing with WJ's, that model year tends to be avoided due to the gamble you're taking on which category it'll fall under.
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Old March 15th, 2006, 11:14 PM   #42
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Nope your wrong on this , it was between the 6.5 and duramax that they did not have a diesel offering . My cousin the GM sales men said it was killing there pickup sales at the time .
My buddy has a crew cab 2500 with a 6.5L and I swear it was a 99...one of the last of that body style.....I'll have to find out from him what year it is...it might be older. :dunno: I know when the new body style came out in 99 and 3/4tons a year later, the old body style stuck around 'til the end of '00. I thought the 6.5L was only availible in that style.

And the 6.5L TD was not killing Chevy's truck sales....Ford 7.3L and Dodge 5.9L diesels where killing it. The 6.5L is a reliable motor, but power wise couldnt keep up with the competition come late 90's.
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Old March 16th, 2006, 06:21 AM   #43
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My buddy has a crew cab 2500 with a 6.5L and I swear it was a 99...one of the last of that body style.....I'll have to find out from him what year it is...it might be older. :dunno: I know when the new body style came out in 99 and 3/4tons a year later, the old body style stuck around 'til the end of '00. I thought the 6.5L was only availible in that style.

And the 6.5L TD was not killing Chevy's truck sales....Ford 7.3L and Dodge 5.9L diesels where killing it. The 6.5L is a reliable motor, but power wise couldnt keep up with the competition come late 90's.

I've seen 2000 crew cabs with the 6.5 diesel. I thought about buying one before I bought my truck.
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I've seen 2000 crew cabs with the 6.5 diesel. I thought about buying one before I bought my truck.
I thought I had seen some 99-00 crew cabs and stake trucks before for sale in the auto traders..but couldn't remember. I need to track down my buddy Tim today to see what year his crew cab is...I thought it was a 99. He bought it in '01 because some guy traded it in on a Dmax. I remember it was practically new when he got it. :dunno:

And Marv, I can't believe you get your info from a car salesman and believe him.....99.9% of the car/truck salesmen I have talked to don't know squat about cars.
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I had a GM once, once. It was a 2002 Pontiac Montana Minivan. In the first 8 months of ownership I had about 26 pages of work orders done. They fought me tooth and nail but in the end bought it back as a LEMON.

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My brothes friends cousin had a bad one ten years ago, so they are junk.


and because dodge and ford made a good one in the past meens they're still good


i have a duramax and its had some issues that were programming related, i have had 400rwhp on it for over 40k miles, i rebuilt the imitation allison and its been trouble free

heres some undersized (not really) allison parts
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This is definitly an 'Opinion" thread. Gman, facts would help support your claims, but I think you might be suprized at what you find.

For the record the 6.5 was used until 1998 in the CK truck. It was also used in the Hummer H1 until 2004 . The 2005 H1 uses the Duramax.

Wait until 2007i when ALL manufactures have to move to the new emmission standard. The refineries have to produce "Clean" fuel.

The duramax is sporting 650ft pounds of torque.... that gives me a woody!

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This is definitly an 'Opinion" thread. Gman, facts would help support your claims, but I think you might be suprized at what you find.

For the record the 6.5 was used until 1998 in the CK truck. It was also used in the Hummer H1 until 2004 . The 2005 H1 uses the Duramax.

Wait until 2007i when ALL manufactures have to move to the new emmission standard. The refineries have to produce "Clean" fuel.

The duramax is sporting 650ft pounds of torque.... that gives me a woody!

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thanks AWK I believe you considering your a long time GM employee.
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Old March 16th, 2006, 10:34 AM   #49
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This is definitly an 'Opinion" thread. Gman, facts would help support your claims, but I think you might be suprized at what you find.

For the record the 6.5 was used until 1998 in the CK truck. It was also used in the Hummer H1 until 2004 . The 2005 H1 uses the Duramax.

Wait until 2007i when ALL manufactures have to move to the new emmission standard. The refineries have to produce "Clean" fuel.

The duramax is sporting 650ft pounds of torque.... that gives me a woody!

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I dont think my oppinions are that biaised . I do state iv owned several GM pick ups that served well . I did post the Fed law that required Gm to buy back its diesel motors , thats pretty compeling .

So what did GM use between 98 and when the duramax came out ? is that the year or years they did not have a diesel avalible . I know im correct on that but can not find it on the net .

While im not a big Ford man they have the best selling truck for how long ?
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While im not a big Ford man they have the best selling truck for how long ?
Like 30 years or so....but even tho' I'm a Ford man I think thier title is unfair. GMC and Chevy trucks are counted seperate in determining brand sales......so technically GM(combined) has sold more than Ford or Dodge many of those years.
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