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Old October 14th, 2007, 07:00 PM   #1
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I have driven 4 or 5 different powersmokes so far. I have 3 on my possible list.

Truck 1. 2000 F250, 78000 miles, 7.3 liter, real clean, needs rotors. 2nd most expensive of the group.

Truck 2. 2003 f350, 86000 miles, 6.0 liter, clean, "damp" between engine and transmission, oil, not tranny fluid. Rest of truck is pretty good. Most expensive of the group.

Truck 3. 2001 f250, 96000 miles, 7.3 liter, exterior is clean, rides and drives good, "oily dust" on the tubes entering intake/turbo assembly. Cheapest of the group. My buddy told me it is common for the 7.3 tubros to blow some kinda o-ring and have some oil blow by, quick easy fix no big deal? or deal breaker?

I am leaning towards the two 7.3 liter trucks for fear of problems in the 6.0

My buddy who really seems to know his diesels said that the 6.0 should be fine if the list of work done isnt long and the c94? injectors have been replaced with c95's? or something along those lines.

I know some of you know the 6.0's and are fine with them, I know others are not.....

all trucks are with in 2500 bucks of each other, so price is really not a huge consideration here.
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Truck 1 sold this afternoon.....Neither truck 2 or 3 really has me jumping for joy, back to square one.
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Old October 14th, 2007, 08:25 PM   #3
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I would go with one of the 7.3's. They had a long successful run that was only ended by the inability to make them meet the new EPA standards. I always go with the tried and true stuff as opposed to the first run of a new idea (03 was the first year for the 6.0).

I may be biased, mine is an 02 with the 7.3. The "oily dust" on the tubes is normal on mine also.
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I would go with one of the 7.3's. They had a long successful run that was only ended by the inability to make them meet the new EPA standards. I always go with the tried and true stuff as opposed to the first run of a new idea (03 was the first year for the 6.0).

I may be biased, mine is an 02 with the 7.3. The "oily dust" on the tubes is normal on mine also.
Could this be the blown o rings on the turbos that I was warned about?

Also I know diesels are loud, and what not, this one seemed a little loud at lower RPM but quited down as I got on it.....

Of course I didnt give it a "full" warm up, so I am sure that had something to do with it, I only let it warm up for about 5 minutes, and it had not been driven by the owner in a while....
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fyi- that 6.0Lengine is still under factory powertrain warranty
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fyi- that 6.0Lengine is still under factory powertrain warranty


Will factory powertrain warranty cover what appears to be a crappy rear main seal?

Personally I like this truck a little more then the one I drove today......

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6.0 suck ass!!!!! get a 7.3. ill never get a 6.0 if i buy another diesel. either get a 7.3 or the brand new twin turbo. 6.0 is nothing but problems
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6.0 suck ass!!!!! get a 7.3. ill never get a 6.0 if i buy another diesel. either get a 7.3 or the brand new twin turbo. 6.0 is nothing but problems
I wouldn't buy the new twin untill it has time to prove itself. Just my .02
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I wouldn't buy the new twin untill it has time to prove itself. Just my .02
that and on all the ford forums it appears to be getting horrible fuel mileage when compared to the 6.0 and 7.3's
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i would get a f350 vs f250, since you get the d60 front. the 6.4's havent seen very good fuel mileage, partially because they are heavy as shit.
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Could this be the blown o rings on the turbos that I was warned about?

Also I know diesels are loud, and what not, this one seemed a little loud at lower RPM but quited down as I got on it.....

Of course I didnt give it a "full" warm up, so I am sure that had something to do with it, I only let it warm up for about 5 minutes, and it had not been driven by the owner in a while....
I have never heard of a 6.0L with blown orings on the turbo....its normal to have oil on the boots with dust on them on a 7.3L and 6.0L. This is due to the CCV (crank case ventalation) is vaccumed into the intake....completely normal.


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6.0 suck ass!!!!! get a 7.3. ill never get a 6.0 if i buy another diesel. either get a 7.3 or the brand new twin turbo. 6.0 is nothing but problems
comments like this crack me up... the 6.0L had a bad rep when they first came out due to injector problems, and the issues with puking antifreeze. The injector issues were never as bad as the early DMAX LB7 though. The 7.3L is a great engine, but is loud as can be, the trans will not hold a candle to the Torqshift. My best friend has a 7.3L and I drove it this weekend, its a nice truck, but I will stick with my 6.0L! Also the new SD 6.4L TT is a nice truck, but I cant justify spending $45K on a new truck that gets considerably worse fuel economy then what my truck gets.


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i would get a f350 vs f250, since you get the d60 front. the 6.4's havent seen very good fuel mileage, partially because they are heavy as shit.
2005+ F250 Powerstrokes have a Dana60 in the front....I know thats what my truck has. The reason is getting considerably worse fuel mileage on the new 6.4L is due to the DPF and regeneration.
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oh BTW truck #2 I would bet a pretty penny it has a weeping rear main seal. Not a big deal since its under warranty. Make sure if you get a newer truck to run an oasis report. This will tell you all of the warranty work that has been done.
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ran the oasis on truck # 2 and I will steer clear.

Found an 04 that seems clean, everyone is so damn cheap though, they want too much $$ or am I the cheap one LOL.

as for a d-60 front vs whatever is on the older 250's it should not be a big deal for me. I wont be working the truck overly hard and I will not be plowing. Quite frankly it's overkill for anything but a long haul with my boat. It shoudl be fine.
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ran the oasis on truck # 2 and I will steer clear.

Found an 04 that seems clean, everyone is so damn cheap though, they want too much $$ or am I the cheap one LOL.

as for a d-60 front vs whatever is on the older 250's it should not be a big deal for me. I wont be working the truck overly hard and I will not be plowing. Quite frankly it's overkill for anything but a long haul with my boat. It shoudl be fine.
I agree you will fine with the Dana50....the only difference I have heard is the R&P is smaller on the D50...but Im not 100% sure. I will try and give you a call on the way home from work today.
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