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Old September 12th, 2007, 09:44 PM   #81
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No, not really, I guess I will have to lay it out for you. It really boils down to this: The pitch circle of a fine thread is larger than a course thread. You can't talk about the depth of the thread because the deeper you go into the thread of the bolt, the further and narrower the thread of the nut gets. The point where the nut and the bolt have the same shear strength is at the pitch circle. So, again, it's the size of the pitch circle. Bigger diameter means more circumfrence means more material to shear.

Are we going to have to put some bolts in the vise again to prove my point?
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Old September 12th, 2007, 11:35 PM   #82
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No, not really, I guess I will have to lay it out for you. It really boils down to this: The pitch circle of a fine thread is larger than a course thread. You can't talk about the depth of the thread because the deeper you go into the thread of the bolt, the further and narrower the thread of the nut gets. The point where the nut and the bolt have the same shear strength is at the pitch circle. So, again, it's the size of the pitch circle. Bigger diameter means more circumfrence means more material to shear.

Are we going to have to put some bolts in the vise again to prove my point?
so your saying that the median diameter of the thread (max/root) determines its strength and the area of thread has no effect on this whether the weakest material will fail before the root diameter of the thread snaps?

we might have to break some bolts/strip some aluminum to test this one out
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Old September 13th, 2007, 07:14 AM   #83
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Yes, median (pitch diameter) is the point where the strength comes in to play. And yes, that is assuming alike materials. I know where you are going by saying if you go to a course thread that you will get deeper into the aluminum. But, don't forget, you are using the aluminum "as the nut". This means that you want your pitch diameter to be larger, as in fine thread.

If you were using a steel nut and aluminum bolt, I would agree with you more.
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Yes, median (pitch diameter) is the point where the strength comes in to play. And yes, that is assuming alike materials. I know where you are going by saying if you go to a course thread that you will get deeper into the aluminum. But, don't forget, you are using the aluminum "as the nut". This means that you want your pitch diameter to be larger, as in fine thread.

If you were using a steel nut and aluminum bolt, I would agree with you more.

I still dont agree, for now lets just agree to disagree.....

Im sure whatever you do it should work fine.
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Old September 13th, 2007, 09:04 AM   #85
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I still dont agree, for now lets just agree to disagree.....

Im sure whatever you do it should work fine.
Remeber our last go around.
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Old September 19th, 2007, 05:57 PM   #86
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Remeber our last go around.

butt sex and you couldn't decided he got to go first
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Old September 19th, 2007, 06:40 PM   #87
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butt sex and you couldn't decided he got to go first
If you're gonna make a smart ass remark, the least you could do would be to phrase a sentence that makes sense.

"decided"???????
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Old September 21st, 2007, 01:26 PM   #88
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finished my steering so here is a couple cell ph shots. 7/8 by 3/4 heims. 1,3/4 steering tube and 1,7/8 track bar.

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Old September 24th, 2007, 12:56 PM   #89
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few more.

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Old September 24th, 2007, 04:13 PM   #90
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looks good, now go find the weak links
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Old September 24th, 2007, 04:51 PM   #91
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Pretty gay...................Got your gears in yet? I i welded my front on saturday. Little different but i like it. Looks good, when are you going to run it?
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Old September 24th, 2007, 05:13 PM   #92
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Pretty gay...................Got your gears in yet? I i welded my front on saturday. Little different but i like it. Looks good, when are you going to run it?
waiting on my rims...badlands this weekend. long as my rims are here. need to mount winch and a few little things.. i will take a picture of my front shock tower..cut it and lowered so i can have major down travel. i only have 7 inch of uptravel but it will drop down a 30 inch shock. this was mikes idea why we where sitting there so about a hours worth of work and it was done. we are doing his tonight... ran the mile of mud with mikes yesterday.....38's and we barely made it...no way in hell if it was real wet...

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Cool you should have called we messed around, matt and zeke came up and we wheeled around a little.
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waiting on my rims...badlands this weekend. long as my rims are here. need to mount winch and a few little things.. i will take a picture of my front shock tower..cut it and lowered so i can have major down travel. i only have 7 inch of uptravel but it will drop down a 30 inch shock. this was mikes idea why we where sitting there so about a hours worth of work and it was done. we are doing his tonight... ran the mile of mud with mikes yesterday.....38's and we barely made it...no way in hell if it was real wet...
You sure you want take it that far for the first time out. Just bring Mike's and beat it like you stole.

I think your gonna break you front stubs also. Just your luck should have puts rocks in it.
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You sure you want take it that far for the first time out. Just bring Mike's and beat it like you stole.

I think your gonna break you front stubs also. Just your luck should have puts rocks in it.
i did it the last time i built it, finished at 2am loaded up drove to the badlands, didnt break a thing....(that trip). i just wanna go to drink with you anyway tom....you think we are really going to wheel? thought we would just sit at the pub all day!!!
my front will be the 35 chromo stuff real fast....
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put my disc break kit on the back last night....that sucked getting those old frozen drums off... tried cutting the cast and that was going no where...so cut the center out and boom, loss of 50 plds a side..
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Old September 25th, 2007, 06:13 PM   #97
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the little jeep.....have it dialed in nice now.
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Looks good Mike!
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Old September 26th, 2007, 10:44 AM   #99
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that jeep is looking great~!!
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Old September 28th, 2007, 01:24 PM   #100
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thanks to all!!!! now all we have to get Erins rig done!!!!! and get all bugs worked out on his
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