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Old September 10th, 2007, 06:02 PM   #1
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"the fact remains, gentlemen, that the Administration has sent you here today to convince the members of these two Committees and the Congress that victory is at hand. With all due respect to you, I must say … I don’t buy it. And neither does the independent Government Accountability Office or the Commission headed by General Jones. Both recently issued deeply pessimistic reports…"


"In the last few days, General Petraeus, media have reported that you are prepared to support a slow drawdown of our forces in Iraq - beginning with a brigade or two, perhaps at the end of this year. This clearly is nowhere near enough… It is time to go - and to go now."

-He says its time to stop fighting Iraq's war, and put it on the Iraqis. We don't need to be in the middle of a religious inspired civil war.
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Old September 11th, 2007, 11:22 AM   #2
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A California Democrat going against the war, what a shock!


Read the man's words for your self.....

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art..._congress.html

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Old September 11th, 2007, 11:51 AM   #3
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A California Democrat going against the war, what a shock!


Read the man's words for your self.....

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art..._congress.html
As soon as I saw the D in front of his name I knew this would be the reaction. I don't know if he's right or wrong but in my opinion and from searching news sites that are not run in the it looks pretty negative for us over there.

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Old September 11th, 2007, 12:05 PM   #4
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I get a kick out of the Dems. year ago it was "We aren't making any military progress". Now that we are making a lot of progress there its "we aren't making any political progress".

We still have troops in Germany. Hell, we have bases there.
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not to mention this moron is calling a 4 star general "a liar".
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Old September 11th, 2007, 12:42 PM   #6
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apparently they didn't have speech classes in the 1800's.
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I was thinking the same thing, how old is that guy!!???
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not to mention this moron is calling a 4 star general "a liar".
he says he doesn't buy that we're on the verge of victory? do you think we're on the verge of victory? If you do, please define victory in Iraq and get back with me, it seems like the definition is changing everyday.
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he says he doesn't buy that we're on the verge of victory? do you think we're on the verge of victory? If you do, please define victory in Iraq and get back with me, it seems like the definition is changing everyday.
We already won a military victory. We destroyed thier army, removed their dictator and secured their lands.

We are now just an occupying police force giving them a chance to succeed!

Reminds me alot of the way view welfare in America. Give them an opportunity to succeed by helping them in the begginning. Its like Iraqi welfare!
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We already won a military victory. We destroyed thier army, removed their dictator and secured their lands.

We are now just an occupying police force giving them a chance to succeed!

Reminds me alot of the way view welfare in America. Give them an opportunity to succeed by helping them in the begginning. Its like Iraqi welfare!
Okay, that confused me if that was the case wouldn't the want us out of there and the would want us to continue the "Iraqi Welfare" ?
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Okay, that confused me if that was the case wouldn't the want us out of there and the would want us to continue the "Iraqi Welfare" ?
The point I am making is that the will never support the war regardless. Even if it fits into their "beliefs". It is better for them to oppose the no matter if it is good for the country or not.
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The point I am making is that the will never support the war regardless. Even if it fits into their "beliefs". It is better for them to oppose the no matter if it is good for the country or not.
I think that's the current stand in both parties but I understand now and thanks.
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he says he doesn't buy that we're on the verge of victory? do you think we're on the verge of victory? If you do, please define victory in Iraq and get back with me, it seems like the definition is changing everyday.
Okay, I don't remember saying anyhing about a victory, but nice try
I think I said the moron called a 4 star general, a liar...............as in: "I don't buy it"
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Okay, I don't remember saying anyhing about a victory, but nice try
I think I said the moron called a 4 star general, a liar...............as in: "I don't buy it"
That's what the representative was saying he "didn't buy" that we were on the verge of victory in Iraq.
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That's what the representative was saying he "didn't buy" that we were on the verge of victory in Iraq.
that's what the whole thing was about
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