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Old September 4th, 2007, 12:08 PM   #1
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Anyone ever go riding on the washout on M115? They also have a short 4x4 course on the corner of 115 and 31, its short but put together very well.
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im not sure that that course is open to the public. Im pretty sure its owned (or ran) by the Cadillac Jeepers. I would check with them before you just go out and run the course.
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Anyone ever go riding on the washout on M115? They also have a short 4x4 course on the corner of 115 and 31, its short but put together very well.
first question, is the washout on private land? if so do you have permission to run it? if it is on public property then can you traverse it with a 2 wheel drive conventional motor vehicle? if not than you are violating the 2 wheel drive law on public lands!

2nd question, are you wanting to trail ride in that area and help with a project that needs completing this month? if so contact Trailfanatic or see this thread http://glfwda.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2905

a group of us just spent this past holiday weekend helping out with it and Pat Brower, aka Trailfanatic could use some more people in that area that are willing
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Old September 4th, 2007, 02:47 PM   #4
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im not sure that that course is open to the public. Im pretty sure its owned (or ran) by the Cadillac Jeepers. I would check with them before you just go out and run the course.
Yes, it's run by the Cadillac Jeepers but is owned by Jeff Ellens who also owns the BP station on the corner--That's where the blessing is held.go to www.cadillacjeepers.com to get permission.
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Old September 4th, 2007, 02:49 PM   #5
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and the washout you're refurring to is off limits, the dnr have watching that particular area as it's been a heated debate with the C.J.'s, the mushroom hunters diverted a stream into the trail to keep potential harvesters out.
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Old September 4th, 2007, 05:01 PM   #6
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I knew the cadillac jeepers ran that course and I usually go out with them actually I have never went without them. As far as the washout, it was a guy that works at the marathon not the bp who told me to check it out. I never found it, all I saw on M115 was a bunch of driveways. Is it on private property? Are we allowed to wheel on it?
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After you contact the Cadillac Jeepers , Post a day you would like to try out the course and some of us from the Cadillac Jeepers could meet you there and wheel with you. We will just have to let Mr. Ellen know that were there. I could go up for a day myself. I like the rock pile even though it bangs up the underside of my Jeep.(ALOT).
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will do, I know quite a bit of guys in cadillac that off road the area frequently.
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that trail has been closed down due to overuse. When it was open it was alot of fun.
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After you contact the Cadillac Jeepers , Post a day you would like to try out the course and some of us from the Cadillac Jeepers could meet you there and wheel with you. We will just have to let Mr. Ellen know that were there. I could go up for a day myself. I like the rock pile even though it bangs up the underside of my Jeep.(ALOT).
Hey Ron, thanks again on the tire sell to Loran. You coming out with us on Saturday or the meeting at the summer's house?
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Are we meeting at chads for his course or what the site dosnt tell much anymore
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Old September 4th, 2007, 07:07 PM   #12
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We are riding out at Ellen's for a trail ride around noon, then the meeting and food will at Jeff and Mary Summer's house. It's bring a dish to pass + whatever Mary is going to cook. Call Julie and she can give you directions if you need them. By the way this is snowman.
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if it is on public property then can you traverse it with a 2 wheel drive conventional motor vehicle? if not than you are violating the 2 wheel drive law on public lands!

So what your saying is that there is no four wheeling in Michigan on public land?
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So what your saying is that there is no four wheeling in Michigan on public land?
if you cant drive grandma's cadillac through it, its illegal.
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So what your saying is that there is no four wheeling in Michigan on public land?
Ding, Ding, Ding, You are a winner,..........that why you need to get involved with GLFWDA and help out.
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Ding, Ding, Ding, You are a winner,..........that why you need to get involved with GLFWDA and help out.
exactly, that or buy up a bunch of land... nearly impossible with the state owning so much of it.
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I can see now why everybody says you dont need 60's. Hell you dont even need four wheel drive. I dont wheel in Michigan because I like to wheel in the rocks but it is a shame that Michigan has so much land and could have so much recreational income.
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I can see now why everybody says you dont need 60's. Hell you dont even need four wheel drive. I dont wheel in Michigan because I like to wheel in the rocks but it is a shame that Michigan has so much land and could have so much recreational income.
Exactly.
During the blessing we learned from the town board that the town of Mesick made more money in that one day than they did during the entire week of the mushroom festival. Get the trails open and more "little" towns will flourish as well. Close them and watch the towns dwindle.

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that is why snowmobiling is so welcome in the northern communities. i dont believe the u.p. falls in the 2 wheel drive catagorie though?? so you must drive to the u.p. to use your 60. i believe that is still mi right?
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Exactly.
During the blessing we learned from the town board that the town of Mesick made more money in that one day than they did during the entire week of the mushroom festival. Get the trails open and more "little" towns will flourish as well. Close them and watch the towns dwindle.
Yea, I can only imagine how many towns the tree-huggers keep open with their spending.
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