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Old August 14th, 2007, 05:10 PM   #21
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trib is absolutly correct. alot less retreads than you think these days. mostly on dump trucks or gravel trains. they go off road into construction sites alot and have flats all the time so they try to go cheap. also container haulers have them alot too. most otr trucks or even regional or dedicated trucks are new tires, not retreads. look at a blown carcasss(gator). if it has steel wire cords, then it was never retreaded. retreads use polyester cords.
sorry, I made an assumption that many would make. I guess I will stick with my assumption that it was a re-tread even though I have no way of knowing if this was a re-tread due to me being more interested in ducking the carcass after it hit my car twice (my top was down, and I didn't want to add a trip to the ER to my stops on the way home) and thus didn't manage to get a sample as a souvenir.

I had already mentioned that they likely are probably very safe when used as engineered/designed. I guess if anyone is seriously bent out of shape over it, then an admin. could edit the tire to state that I'm not a fan of exploding semi-truck tires on the freeway at 70 mph... :tonka:

regardless, the latest chapping of my ass comes from the shop not being able to get to the work until the 22nd at the earliest, due to a back log of hail damage repairs queued up...
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Old August 14th, 2007, 05:10 PM   #22
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Hmm funny you mention this...I noticed recently down 94 a lot more tire shreds than usual over the past month

EXACTLY what I was thinking when I saw this thread. Awful lot of them lately. If I didnt drive hoopties all the time Id be a little pissed.
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Old August 14th, 2007, 05:25 PM   #23
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Holy shit, nice first post homer
That's the same thing I was thinking..

I had High Tec retreads on my last YJ, they were great.

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Old August 14th, 2007, 05:40 PM   #24
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That's the same thing I was thinking..

I had High Tec retreads on my last YJ, they were great.

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intriguing for a wheeling rig. I'm more than a bit skeptical if anyone makes a re-tread in a 16" rim that's H, or higher rated - say 205/40 series... :tonka: even better if it meets those ratings, and is actually still an all-season tire... :tonka:

the kumho's on the back of the miata are showing the wear bars so I'll be ordering another set here in a short while...
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Old August 14th, 2007, 05:46 PM   #25
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I got the ones with the green diamond stuff in them, they were the bomb on slick roads. It was like it was on rails compared to everyone else.
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Old August 15th, 2007, 03:59 AM   #26
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he is correct about airline tires being retreads.......but what he didn't say is that they are filled with nitrogen and have what are called heat plugs in them where if they heat up causeing the pressure in the tire to rise the plug melts and releases the pressure so they dont blow out
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due to a back log of hail damage repairs queued up...

Hail, eh? Only place I heard there was a hail storm recently was over in durand. Quite a few people getting new roofs because of it
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Old August 15th, 2007, 06:51 AM   #28
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I was riding a buddies dads harley electra glide (i think thats it) home from the dunes one trip, as I was passing a waste management truck he blew a tire, I got showered in debris, but the tire itself didn't hit me, I thought I had been shot.
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Hail, eh? Only place I heard there was a hail storm recently was over in durand. Quite a few people getting new roofs because of it
tis what they said. *shrug*

if this were a newer car, I probably wouldn't take it to these guys, but hell, it's an '01, and has 85k on the clock - it's a fun commuter car for me, so I'm trying to not get worked up over the gnarly-ness of driving it all beat up and filthy
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The main culprit behind this serious problem is improper tire maintenance and, more specifically, underinflation. All tires come apart when improperly maintained no matter if they are new or retreaded. But retreads have been proven just as safe as new tires. And because of this, they are used on school buses, US Postal Service, UPS, and FedEx vehicles, as well as taxis, and even fire engines.
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Whatever..retreads blow...spread your propaganda somewhere else you rogue
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Old August 15th, 2007, 07:21 AM   #31
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Hail, eh? Only place I heard there was a hail storm recently was over in durand. Quite a few people getting new roofs because of it
Durand area got it bad, but so did parts of Flint. Applegate was having a giant hail damage sale because of it.
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Old August 15th, 2007, 07:39 AM   #32
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There not a lot of fun when your the driver either . I blew one last Firday while loaded . 110 psi going boom right behind your ass will get your attention with a quickness .

I did however pull over and remove it from the road way .
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trib is absolutly correct. alot less retreads than you think these days. mostly on dump trucks or gravel trains. they go off road into construction sites alot and have flats all the time so they try to go cheap. also container haulers have them alot too. most otr trucks or even regional or dedicated trucks are new tires, not retreads. look at a blown carcasss(gator). if it has steel wire cords, then it was never retreaded. retreads use polyester cords.
Hey joe_jeep. you are only partly correct in your assesment of retreads.. they are used way more than just on dump trucks and gravel trains.
There are thousands of National long haul (otr) fleets, and Regional fleets, and local p&d fleets that use retreads, and have better cost per mile than that of the new tires.You really should check out the information that trib linked you to on the post so you might understand retreading a little better.
By the way, all radial tires such as 11R22.5 and 295/75R22.5 have steel in them, and are retreaded the most. Polyester cords are found in bias ply tires and are not as common now a days.. you find them mostly in farm applications(for med truck sizes)They have a much stiffer sidewall than that of Radial tires. But both Radial and Bias ply can be retreaded. There are poly/ steel mix light truck tires that are available too, but most retreaders would prefer dealing with all steel. They last longer and can be repaired alot easier.
You also said if you can see the steel then the tire has never been retreaded, that too is a myth that is wrong.. if you see steel in the gator it more than likely was a "casing" failure..maintenance (checking air pressure) like TRIB said is the no.1 factor!
You should go by your tire dealer and take a tour of their retread plant if they have one.. you will get a better understanding of the process that is involved.
And yes before you ask I am a retreader and have been for 14years.. I love to have my customers come in and see the proceess.. that way there is no misunderstanding of retreading.. it is a form of recycling, very cost effective for fleets and owner/operators and that is a good thing!
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