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Old August 7th, 2007, 09:14 PM   #1
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i like sglide's work so i thought i'd post it here, rear bumper he built for me
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Old August 8th, 2007, 08:31 AM   #2
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Old August 9th, 2007, 07:40 AM   #3
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my sediments exactly
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Old August 9th, 2007, 08:03 PM   #4
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have you ever seen one snap off and go flying at some one?
i do them this way now so they can be welded on three sides.
but what do i know
i only do it for a living
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If that is what you like, go for it. There is just no need for that much weld. If you have a 3/4" clevis or D-ring you really only need let's say a total of ONE INCH of good, proper weld to carry the same weight, obviously you have to take into account the occasional side pull and such, so it would be more. I figured one inch because the clevis is hardened. I have built many bumpers and worked in the steel business and fabrication for almost all of my working life and the D-Ring mounts that I make are made out of 2 1/2" x 3/4" stock, bevel the welding surface, run a 1/2 weld around it and I have over 3" of weld, well over the required. I do not doubt that you do good work (even though I have not seen any in person) but the ones you saw pull off had other problems - not enough weld, not properly welded or not properly prepped. This just seems overkill and it makes them stand out too much, for my taste.
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Old August 10th, 2007, 06:51 AM   #6
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well i like it
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Old August 10th, 2007, 05:59 PM   #7
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If that is what you like, go for it. There is just no need for that much weld. If you have a 3/4" clevis or D-ring you really only need let's say a total of ONE INCH of good, proper weld to carry the same weight, obviously you have to take into account the occasional side pull and such, so it would be more. I figured one inch because the clevis is hardened. I have built many bumpers and worked in the steel business and fabrication for almost all of my working life and the D-Ring mounts that I make are made out of 2 1/2" x 3/4" stock, bevel the welding surface, run a 1/2 weld around it and I have over 3" of weld, well over the required. I do not doubt that you do good work (even though I have not seen any in person) but the ones you saw pull off had other problems - not enough weld, not properly welded or not properly prepped. This just seems overkill and it makes them stand out too much, for my taste.
when ive seen them fail it was not the weld, but the base metal and placement. they were just welded on the face and under side load ripped the base metal along the heat eff. zone.
yes at a staight pull 3" of 7018 will hold 300,000 (ive done it), but under side load you are banking on the heat eff. zone (right next to the weld) holding.
wich after hydrogen imbritlement is only good for about 4000 draw, and less than 1000 of torque load on 1/4" mild steel.
if i would have used mig, all of these # drop by 40%
by running three sides and useing an open root proc. i know that this bumper will never fail, no matter what.
if some jackass hooks up to him in a mud hole and runs 40 mph to the end of a 100' stap sideways, no one is going to be wareing part of a bumper i built as headgear.

and sence you have been working in the biz for so long you will under stand how qualified i am in this area better than most (or you should at least)
im a pipe welder in the oilfield, when i get called to a job peoples lives depend on me doing it the right way
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Old August 10th, 2007, 06:00 PM   #8
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well i like it
when you get a chance post one up of it on the jeep and painted.
thanks
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Old August 10th, 2007, 09:08 PM   #9
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yeah i just got the last coat on yesterday, the 1" shackles dont fit yet, but ill fix that, i got some 3/4" ones till then, ill try to get the pic tommorow when its not dark out
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Old August 11th, 2007, 04:22 PM   #10
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Here's some pics after i got it herculined


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Old August 13th, 2007, 07:34 PM   #11
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when ive seen them fail it was not the weld, but the base metal and placement. they were just welded on the face and under side load ripped the base metal along the heat eff. zone.
yes at a staight pull 3" of 7018 will hold 300,000 (ive done it), but under side load you are banking on the heat eff. zone (right next to the weld) holding.
wich after hydrogen imbritlement is only good for about 4000 draw, and less than 1000 of torque load on 1/4" mild steel.
if i would have used mig, all of these # drop by 40%
by running three sides and useing an open root proc. i know that this bumper will never fail, no matter what.
if some jackass hooks up to him in a mud hole and runs 40 mph to the end of a 100' stap sideways, no one is going to be wareing part of a bumper i built as headgear.

and sence you have been working in the biz for so long you will under stand how qualified i am in this area better than most (or you should at least)
im a pipe welder in the oilfield, when i get called to a job peoples lives depend on me doing it the right way
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Old August 14th, 2007, 10:34 AM   #12
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Cellulosic covered electrodes may still be used if care is taken in controlling preheat and interpass temperatures, with pipe wall thickness up to and including 10mm on X-80. It is not currently advisable to attempt to weld on thickness greater than 10mm because increased restraint and cooling rates are expected to increase the risk of weld metal hydrogen cracking. Low hydrogen vertical-up electrodes are not normally used for transmission pipeline production welds, due to the low productivity.

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Old August 14th, 2007, 09:45 PM   #13
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Cellulosic covered electrodes may still be used if care is taken in controlling preheat and interpass temperatures, with pipe wall thickness up to and including 10mm on X-80. It is not currently advisable to attempt to weld on thickness greater than 10mm because increased restraint and cooling rates are expected to increase the risk of weld metal hydrogen cracking. Low hydrogen vertical-up electrodes are not normally used for transmission pipeline production welds, due to the low productivity.

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you dickhead tim:tonka:
you know i cant yahoo or google
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Old August 14th, 2007, 10:37 PM   #14
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I think it looks retarded, therefore -8 street cred.
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Old August 14th, 2007, 10:49 PM   #15
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you know i cant yahoo or google
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I don't know shit about welding but I trust sglide when he says it'll hold. Might not be the way some would want it to look, but I would pull on it.
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Old August 15th, 2007, 08:56 AM   #16
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i like sglide's work so i thought i'd post it here, rear bumper he built for me
You should weld up a little step stool.:tonka:
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Old August 15th, 2007, 05:44 PM   #17
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Old November 15th, 2007, 12:49 PM   #18
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i like it would be sweet with spare tire carrier on it
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Old November 15th, 2007, 10:47 PM   #19
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I think it looks retarded, therefore -8 street cred.
x2 so is that -16 street cred?

I don't like it but this guy apparently does and it on HIS jeep so nice bumper!! If it works and doesn't break then it's good in my book.
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