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Old August 11th, 2007, 07:56 AM   #41
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M-6375-Z460Billet Steel176-tooth24.2 oz.-in.Fits 1979-97 460 including M-6007-C460/D460/A514/D514. For external balance only. 11” long or diaphram-style clutch with 5/16” holes. 11.5” and 12” long or diaphram-style clutch. 11” diaphram Ford Trucks even pattern. Meets SFI 1.1.
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Old August 11th, 2007, 08:39 AM   #42
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The only hang-ups
are 410 and 428ci engines, which are externally balanced, unlike the rest of the “FE” engines
which are internally balanced. This means that if you intend to interchange components, you
must balance your mill accordingly or face serious vibration problems later. The 428 Super
Cobra Jet mandates further balancing considerations due to its add-on counterweight and
heavier LeMans rods.
This is why I had to make a Flywheel. they do not make a standard trans one for a 410.
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Old August 11th, 2007, 08:41 PM   #43
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M-6375-Z460Billet Steel176-tooth24.2 oz.-in.Fits 1979-97 460 including M-6007-C460/D460/A514/D514. For external balance only. 11” long or diaphram-style clutch with 5/16” holes. 11.5” and 12” long or diaphram-style clutch. 11” diaphram Ford Trucks even pattern. Meets SFI 1.1.
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ding ding...round two!

are you trying to reinforce what I allready stated? or just make your self look bad? the fact that 79+ 460's are externaly balanced has nothing to do with your previous claims that all of them were..


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The only hang-ups
are 410 and 428ci engines, which are externally balanced, unlike the rest of the “FE” engines
which are internally balanced. This means that if you intend to interchange components, you
must balance your mill accordingly or face serious vibration problems later. The 428 Super
Cobra Jet mandates further balancing considerations due to its add-on counterweight and
heavier LeMans rods.
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This is why I had to make a Flywheel. they do not make a standard trans one for a 410.
again, I can quote info off the internet too.. but it has nothing to do with helping to prove your wrong info..

you posted above that only the 410 is external, and then after I corrected you, you post a excerpt from another site to reinforce what I said,(that 410's and 428's both are) and disprove your own BS, but somehow think it helps your case? I'm not sure what your trying to get at..
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You are all just a little off. I've been researching the 335 engines for over 25 years. The 335 was in the design house by '68. They "borrowed" the heads in '69 to build the 302 boss for scca racing. You might say that the the 302 boss was the first production 335 series engine although the bottom end was the "w" design.
The 351c was introduced in '70. The "c" was built several different ways including 2bbl,4bbl,HO,CJ. The last year of the Cleveland was '74 (I have one,I also have a '70).
The 400 was introduced in '71. '78 was the last year for a car.
The 351M was introduced in '75 as a way to simplify production and reduce parts overhead as nearly everything interchanged with the 400.
The biggest problem with the 351m/400 was the timing chain which retarded cam timing. By doing nothing more than replacing the chain with a good aftermarket racing style chain you could make it a whole new motor. The heads on the 2bblc and 351m/400 are identical. the valves and ports are bigger than an all out racing sbc. The valve/ports are too big to present any velocity. Velocity is what a head needs to make to create low end torque and fuel mileage. Don't get me wrong, I love this engine.
The austalian 351c heads were identical to the ones here but, They built a 302c (destroked 351c) which used the closed chamber 2bbl heads.
Yes I do have writen proof of everything I wrote.
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You are all just a little off. I've been researching the 335 engines for over 25 years. The 335 was in the design house by '68. They "borrowed" the heads in '69 to build the 302 boss for scca racing. You might say that the the 302 boss was the first production 335 series engine although the bottom end was the "w" design.
The 351c was introduced in '70. The "c" was built several different ways including 2bbl,4bbl,HO,CJ. The last year of the Cleveland was '74 (I have one,I also have a '70).
The 400 was introduced in '71. '78 was the last year for a car.
The 351M was introduced in '75 as a way to simplify production and reduce parts overhead as nearly everything interchanged with the 400.
The biggest problem with the 351m/400 was the timing chain which retarded cam timing. By doing nothing more than replacing the chain with a good aftermarket racing style chain you could make it a whole new motor. The heads on the 2bblc and 351m/400 are identical. the valves and ports are bigger than an all out racing sbc. The valve/ports are too big to present any velocity. Velocity is what a head needs to make to create low end torque and fuel mileage. Don't get me wrong, I love this engine.
The austalian 351c heads were identical to the ones here but, They built a 302c (destroked 351c) which used the closed chamber 2bbl heads.
Yes I do have writen proof of everything I wrote.
at this point dude, who cares.
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Old August 18th, 2007, 07:00 PM   #46
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Cave man are looking to have a 460 built? If so drop me a line and i will hook you up with my guy. My motor makes 500 hp on pump gas and runs as close to stock as you can get. Not cheap b but better than a crate engine.
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Yes I do have writen proof of everything I wrote.
I'd agree with everything you posted. It reads almost word for word whats said in my ford parts interchange book, and whats on bubba's M block site, and varrious other sites.

It IS good to see people research(or have a large enough knowledge base) "facts" before they claim them to be the truth.
have a on me man..

Now if we really want to get people going, someone needs to make a thread about SOHC 427's, DOHC windsor based indy motors, and 3 and 4 valve head kits.. Or better yet, aluminum Boss 494's... lol
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