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Old July 10th, 2007, 09:17 PM   #21
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just for the hell of it, you might as well get an old flat bed tow truck if you were gonna go the stake bed route, and just skip the trailor
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Old July 11th, 2007, 04:43 PM   #22
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just for the hell of it, you might as well get an old flat bed tow truck if you were gonna go the stake bed route, and just skip the trailor
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im not an ass hole I just don't like when people refuse to take the fact that wheel base plays a huge fucking roll in towing things. I dont care what drivetrain it has in it. a longer wheel base is going to help. im not saying you cant tow with a SWB truck just that if you are buying a truck with the intent to tow why the fukc not get a longer wheel base one?
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Old July 11th, 2007, 07:11 PM   #23
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im not an ass hole I just don't like when people refuse to take the fact that wheel base plays a huge fucking roll in towing things. I dont care what drivetrain it has in it. a longer wheel base is going to help. im not saying you cant tow with a SWB truck just that if you are buying a truck with the intent to tow why the fukc not get a longer wheel base one?
It makes a huge difference, but it isn't 100%. Weight and track play in that as well. Ever tow with a one ton dump truck? It doesn't have much more wheelbase, but it tows great because it's heavy.

I completely agree with you that if you're buying a truck primarily for towing, then yes, get a LWB.

It just pisses me off when you tell me I don't tow enough to know what I'm talking about.
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Old July 11th, 2007, 07:45 PM   #24
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It makes a huge difference, but it isn't 100%. Weight and track play in that as well. Ever tow with a one ton dump truck? It doesn't have much more wheelbase, but it tows great because it's heavy.

I completely agree with you that if you're buying a truck primarily for towing, then yes, get a LWB.

It just pisses me off when you tell me I don't tow enough to know what I'm talking about.
i knew that would piss you off thats why i said it :tonka: :tonka:


LWB f-150 wieghs more then a swb f-150 also.

I have towed with many 1 ton's and its a lot nicer because of the weight.
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Old July 11th, 2007, 10:36 PM   #25
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i knew that would piss you off thats why i said it :tonka: :tonka:


LWB f-150 wieghs more then a swb f-150 also.

I have towed with many 1 ton's and its a lot nicer because of the weight.
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Old July 12th, 2007, 06:49 PM   #26
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Old July 12th, 2007, 07:51 PM   #27
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Old July 15th, 2007, 08:40 AM   #29
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just for the hell of it, you might as well get an old flat bed tow truck if you were gonna go the stake bed route, and just skip the trailor
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im not an ass hole I just don't like when people refuse to take the fact that wheel base plays a huge fucking roll in towing things. I dont care what drivetrain it has in it. a longer wheel base is going to help. im not saying you cant tow with a SWB truck just that if you are buying a truck with the intent to tow why the fukc not get a longer wheel base one?
you know what i tow with nate.
and i wouldnt want to go back to towing with a pickup after running the stake truck for a while now.
going to the pre-gig i had mine on the steakbed and cubes on the trailer without having to worry about how it was going to handle and the gas milage never changed from towing just one jeep.

what im saying is get the biggest truck you can aford, its always better to have to more truck than you can use , than not enuf
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Old July 15th, 2007, 09:28 PM   #30
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Didn't a 4cyl automatic S-10 have a higher tow rating than a a V6 full size ford?


i think i remember it being 3100 for the S-10 and 2600 or so for the ford.

have you been drinking again?
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Old July 18th, 2007, 12:17 PM   #31
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no i remember when they had a v6 comparison in Motor trend back in 97 or whatever. Not saying that i'd rather have an S-10 4cyl, but i think the results might be the same


the 4.2L V6 ones in manual tranny form are only 'rated' from 1700-3600 lbs for trailer weight depending on gear ratios and the automatics are rated for around 5K lb


2.2L automatic S-10's are "rated" for 3100 lb
2.2 manuals are 1400 lb, but we all know that has been exceeded
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Old July 18th, 2007, 04:23 PM   #32
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and i'd say no, that ford is slow and has no power.
Ummm.. on paper.. But I'll tell you. Out here on the highway I see ALOT of trucks pulling trailers. 7 times out of 10 I am getting my doors blown off my fords . the other 3 times it is a chevy or dodge. I am usually passing chevys, and dodges.
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Old July 18th, 2007, 11:39 PM   #33
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Ummm.. on paper.. But I'll tell you. Out here on the highway I see ALOT of trucks pulling trailers. 7 times out of 10 I am getting my doors blown off my fords . the other 3 times it is a chevy or dodge. I am usually passing chevys, and dodges.
drove a v6 ford once, it was slow and gutless, so i don't know maybe it was a bad one


and about the blowing the doors off thing, Ask around and you will find that i had no trouble doing 80 mph or more with my 4cyl Sonoma pulling my samurai, In fact i had to drive that fast because of the retarded power band of the engine.

so speed does not equal safe or good towing

but i'd pick the ancient GM 4.3L over the other V6 full size trucks. not fast by any means, but it has more useful torque imo.
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Old July 19th, 2007, 08:42 PM   #34
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what im saying is get the biggest truck you can aford, its always better to have to more truck than you can use , than not enuf

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Old July 31st, 2007, 03:58 AM   #35
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To answer the question the 97 4.2L V6 has better horsepower(not by much), but far less torque. What you want is the 300 I6 from 96 down. It has more torque than the 302 and will pull like a dream. I owned a 88 f150 2wd and it towed a 18ft boat no problem, a car trailer took a little longer to get up to speed. Lets face it, you wont be drag racing with a trailer on a tow vehicle, but it is nice to get to safe hwy speeds in a short time.
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